BAD Carbs
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BAD Carbs
09 Nov 2007 15:25
Hey Guys,
I have some very badly gummed up carbs. They have not been used for 13 years. Needless to say they are a mess.
They are off a 1976 KZ900 LTD. See the attached photo. The float valves will not move and as you can see there is a lot of gunk in them. Any ideas as to how I can clean them and get them serviceable again??
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Fratedog
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I have some very badly gummed up carbs. They have not been used for 13 years. Needless to say they are a mess.
They are off a 1976 KZ900 LTD. See the attached photo. The float valves will not move and as you can see there is a lot of gunk in them. Any ideas as to how I can clean them and get them serviceable again??
Thanks
Fratedog
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Re: BAD Carbs
09 Nov 2007 15:26
Sorry picture was too big. Not loaded. Will try to reduce it. and post
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09 Nov 2007 15:53
Here's a link about boiling carbs in vinegar and/or lemon juice.
vinegar
Might also go up to the "search forum" box and type in vinegar lemon juice which should return several more links along these lines.
According to reports from other members, some of the commercial brands of carb cleaner have recently changed to milder ineffective formulations in which carbs may soak for extended periods with hardly any noticable effect. So would also do a search on carb cleaning in hopes of learning about the latest and greatest commercial products and techniques such as ultra sound.
Good Luck!
vinegar
Might also go up to the "search forum" box and type in vinegar lemon juice which should return several more links along these lines.
According to reports from other members, some of the commercial brands of carb cleaner have recently changed to milder ineffective formulations in which carbs may soak for extended periods with hardly any noticable effect. So would also do a search on carb cleaning in hopes of learning about the latest and greatest commercial products and techniques such as ultra sound.
Good Luck!
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09 Nov 2007 16:03
Those things need to be totally disassembled and dipped in carb dip... I would also recommend the NAPA stuff or Gumout brand. Once they have been dipped, you will need to clear the internal passageways. We use an ultrasonic cleaner which is pretty good at this. Unfortunately, a normal wire won't go all the way through any of the internal passageways because of bends. It will be a waste of time to clean/clear the external parts without cleaning the internal. Good luck, you may need some
One more thing, don't bother with trying to save any of the jets... pitch them and use new jets. And NEVER pry on the slides to try and get them out. It only damages the soft slide bodies and you will end up trying to sand them to get them to slide again. Last, I am not sure how well vinegar will dissolve old gas goo... I think I will keep using vinegar on my tossed salads (sorry Patton!). If you have luck using it, let me know! Also, mention whether Red Wine, Balsamic or cheap synthetic vinegar works better hehe
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One more thing, don't bother with trying to save any of the jets... pitch them and use new jets. And NEVER pry on the slides to try and get them out. It only damages the soft slide bodies and you will end up trying to sand them to get them to slide again. Last, I am not sure how well vinegar will dissolve old gas goo... I think I will keep using vinegar on my tossed salads (sorry Patton!). If you have luck using it, let me know! Also, mention whether Red Wine, Balsamic or cheap synthetic vinegar works better hehe
Post edited by: wiredgeorge, at: 2007/11/09 19:07
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Re: BAD Carbs
09 Nov 2007 16:13
Thanks Wired,
I have all new parts for them. I figured they would all need to be replaced. Just having a hard time getting to it
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I have all new parts for them. I figured they would all need to be replaced. Just having a hard time getting to it
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Re: BAD Carbs
11 Nov 2007 06:30
Add some baking soda to that vinegar and watch what happens:ohmy:
wiredgeorge wrote:
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Those things need to be totally disassembled and dipped in carb dip... I would also recommend the NAPA stuff or Gumout brand. Once they have been dipped, you will need to clear the internal passageways. We use an ultrasonic cleaner which is pretty good at this. Unfortunately, a normal wire won't go all the way through any of the internal passageways because of bends. It will be a waste of time to clean/clear the external parts without cleaning the internal. Good luck, you may need some
One more thing, don't bother with trying to save any of the jets... pitch them and use new jets. And NEVER pry on the slides to try and get them out. It only damages the soft slide bodies and you will end up trying to sand them to get them to slide again. Last, I am not sure how well vinegar will dissolve old gas goo... I think I will keep using vinegar on my tossed salads (sorry Patton!). If you have luck using it, let me know! Also, mention whether Red Wine, Balsamic or cheap synthetic vinegar works better hehe<br><br>Post edited by: wiredgeorge, at: 2007/11/09 19:07
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Re: BAD Carbs
11 Nov 2007 07:15
And speaking of soda, here's a neat little side project to help pass the time while carbs are soaking (no vinegar required)--
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Re: BAD Carbs
11 Nov 2007 08:14
Hey Guys,
I got them cleaned up -- see picture-- but the float will not move freely. Is there anyway to free that up?
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Fratedog
I got them cleaned up -- see picture-- but the float will not move freely. Is there anyway to free that up?
Thanks
Fratedog
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