surging/cutting out??

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09 Sep 2007 22:56 #169711 by doublewideeddie
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Ok guys an issue that has cropped up on my KZ1000 is when cruising at about 45 mph the enging starts doing what I can only describe as surging or cutting out. It idles fine and will flat out get it out of the box but it wont cruise for any length of time. I'm thinking fuel issue here but I'm not that familier with the bikes fuel system yet.

The bike has Hi comp pistons but otherwise is stock in the engine area.

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10 Sep 2007 05:10 #169726 by BSKZ650
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what year is the bike,

does it die all together?

woundering about the vent on the gas tank,

77 kz650, owned for over 25 years
77 ltd1000, current rider
76 kz900, just waiting
73 z1,, gonna restore this one
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10 Sep 2007 07:37 #169757 by baldy110
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It sounds like your are running lean at cruise power. Does it surge when you are on steady throttle, meaning staying at a speed like 70mph. If so then you need to raise the slide needle up one notch.

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10 Sep 2007 09:12 #169772 by Patton
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Might also be crud (rust, dirt or whatever) suspended in the fuel inside fuel tank which hovers and collects around and obstructs the petcock pickup tubes (located up inside the tank) while cruising along.

Could remove the petcock, check and clean petcock pickup tubes. And flush out the fuel tank with fresh clean gasoline.

As already noted, could be obstructed fuel cap vent. To test, just try running with cap loosened, and see if that helps restore fuel flow.

Good Luck! :)

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10 Sep 2007 09:20 #169774 by doublewideeddie
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the bike is a 79 and it dosn't die if I pull over it will idle fine. But I will check the items sugested. thanks

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10 Sep 2007 09:33 #169780 by Patton
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doublewideeddie wrote:

...doesn't die if I pull over it will idle fine....


Not unusual, because requires minimum fuel flow at idle. :)

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11 Sep 2007 17:04 #170045 by SLEEPER650
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YOU MAY NEED TO CLEAN OUT YOUR PILOT JETS. IF ANY MODS HAVE BEEN DONE YOU WILL NEED TO UP SIZE.

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78 650sr waiting for rebuild
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11 Sep 2007 17:04 #170046 by SLEEPER650
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YOU MAY NEED TO CLEAN OUT YOUR PILOT JETS. IF ANY MODS HAVE BEEN DONE YOU WILL NEED TO UP SIZE.

78 650sr my baby
78 650sr waiting for rebuild
82 kz1100

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11 Sep 2007 22:50 #170107 by doublewideeddie
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talked to previous owner. the bike had a backfire problem. he upsized the jets and cured the problem. I'll get some time this week I hope to look it over very good and I'll post the results here. It might help some one down the road who is having similar issues.

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15 Sep 2007 19:38 #170786 by doublewideeddie
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Ok guys took off the tank and carbs today. reset the floats and checked the fuel flow from the tank. I took it out and the problem still exists. the only sugestion I havent tried as of yet in the fuel area is the needles. I read in the manual I need to pull the trottle shaft. will I need to resync the carbs after that? This problem is only in the mid RPM range. If I open it to full trottle wile its surging it will pull till I run out of guts to hold it.

Any other sugestions for me before i rename this bike Basket case??

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16 Sep 2007 07:27 #170887 by SLEEPER650
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IN MID RANGE RPM YOU BIKE RUNS OFF OF YOUR PILOT JET WHAT SIZE JETS ARE IN YOUR CARBS?

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16 Sep 2007 08:23 #170891 by doublewideeddie
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the only jet I actually saw a number on is the big one in the center the needle fits in. its a 130. I also have discovered since my last post the vents on the carbs are plugged. I'm going to try to find the time before work today to unplug them and see what happens.

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