Oil in the Air Box

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05 Jul 2024 19:39 - 05 Jul 2024 20:03 #901804 by daveo
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Was finding oil puddling in the bottom of my air box...

It was coming out the rubber hose that connects the breather cover to the air box, and making a bloody mess...

Is that a common issue with the big fours?




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    05 Jul 2024 21:17 #901805 by SWest
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    Are you riding it hard?
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    05 Jul 2024 22:19 - 05 Jul 2024 22:25 #901806 by daveo
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    Probably, but not more than usual...well, maybe a little.

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    But I don't feel guilty...she likes it you know.

     
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    06 Jul 2024 01:38 - 06 Jul 2024 01:41 #901809 by Warren3200gt
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    Time for a compression test. Oil in the air box is caused by excessive positive crankcase pressure due to compression blowby then venting through the crankcase breather. 
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    06 Jul 2024 02:04 #901811 by Wookie58
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    Excess crankcase pressure can also be caused by a blockage/restriction in the breather system
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    06 Jul 2024 02:16 #901812 by hugo
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    .............................................or overfilling the crank with oil.
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    06 Jul 2024 06:03 #901816 by Nessism
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    How much oil?  Some light residue is normal.  A puddle, is not.  Also, what type of oil are you using?  It may be time for 20W-50, if you ride when it's warm.
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    06 Jul 2024 13:21 - 06 Jul 2024 13:27 #901829 by daveo
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    Been using Rotella 15W40 T4...
    Wasn't finding much oil, but residue buildup over the span of several 5-8k rpm rides.

    This stopped that completely:



    ...and there are no oil leaks anywhere on the motor!


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    06 Jul 2024 16:28 #901840 by F64
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    Yeah, That's why I put oil vapor catch cans on my cars.
    Gotta love sending oil vapors into your cylinder.
    Drops the octane value on your gasoline.
    Which makes you more susceptible to detonation.
    Not emissions friendly but I reroute the hose to vent below the bike. Plug the airbox fitting.
    You could put a pressure gauge on the hose to see how much blowby you are getting.

    Mike Nixon's opinion on this
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    06 Jul 2024 18:09 - 06 Jul 2024 19:16 #901842 by daveo
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    7/06/24 compression check results:
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    1 & 4  160
    2 & 3  145-150

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    Half a quart of oil evaporated on today's 100 +/- mile ride...

    She loved every breathtaking moment through which we flew!!!

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    07 Jul 2024 04:37 #901846 by Wookie58
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    Been using Rotella 15W40 T4...
    Wasn't finding much oil, but residue buildup over the span of several 5-8k rpm rides.

    This stopped that completely:



    ...and there are no oil leaks anywhere on the motor!


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    Love that solution Dave, is that "ram air" filter foam or something similar that won't cause a pressure build up??
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    07 Jul 2024 06:14 - 07 Jul 2024 06:18 #901851 by daveo
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    Yes, and it performs much better than expected.

    It's a strip cut from a sheet of RamAir filter media I acquired nearly ten years ago.

    It may be similar to the material used in their product offerings today.
     




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