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10 Dec 2017 09:41 #775795
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2016 Yamaha FJR1300ES
1982 GPz750 R1
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1976 Kawasaki KZ400
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I seem to recall partzilla having them as well. For more dinero, of course.
Jim
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2016 Yamaha FJR1300ES
1982 GPz750 R1
1974 Kawasaki H1
1976 Kawasaki KZ400
1979 Yamaha XS650 cafe'
2001 KZ1000P
2001 Yamaha YZ426
1981 Honda XR200 stroked in an '89 CR125 chassis
1965 Mustang
1967 Triumph GT6
1976 Bronco
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10 Dec 2017 10:21 #775797
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1981 KZ650-D4, with 1981 z750L engine (Wiensco 810 big bore).
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www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/607213...sr-1981-z750l-engine
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I hope the imd piston work well, I found them expensive enough
Have you found +0.5mm piston on Partzilla now also ?
Have you found +0.5mm piston on Partzilla now also ?
1981 KZ650-D4, with 1981 z750L engine (Wiensco 810 big bore).
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www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/607213...sr-1981-z750l-engine
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10 Dec 2017 22:28 #775821
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2-04 R1, 81 CSR1000, 81 LTD1000, 2-83 GPz1100, 3-79CBX, 81 CBX, 3-XS650, 84 Venture, +parts
Quote "speed costs money...how fast do you want to go?" (Which Z movie?)
Universal formula for how many motorcycles one should own = n + 1, where n is how many motorcycles you own right now....
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As you already suspect / know, the only way you should re-use a cylinder is if there is no visible damage or wear beyond the recommended service limits, If your cylinders show a line of pitting (like the pictures) or deep scoring on the cylinders or piston skirts, a simple "de-glazing" hone and a set of new rings typically isn't enough. The cylinders will require re-boring and oversize pistons and rings installed. The 0.4 mm clean up bore (test) is a good idea before buying a 0.50 mm over piston kit....those pits look pretty deep to me....the 0.50 pistons mean only 0.25 mm is cut / honed from the sleeve wall, and that might not be enough.....
Daftrusty (KZR member) used a set of those Cruzin Image pistons in his 750 and they seemed to work well for him....
Daftrusty (KZR member) used a set of those Cruzin Image pistons in his 750 and they seemed to work well for him....
2-04 R1, 81 CSR1000, 81 LTD1000, 2-83 GPz1100, 3-79CBX, 81 CBX, 3-XS650, 84 Venture, +parts
Quote "speed costs money...how fast do you want to go?" (Which Z movie?)
Universal formula for how many motorcycles one should own = n + 1, where n is how many motorcycles you own right now....
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12 Dec 2017 06:46 - 12 Dec 2017 07:01 #775887
by gordone
1981 KZ650-D4, with 1981 z750L engine (Wiensco 810 big bore).
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www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/607213...sr-1981-z750l-engine
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I delivered the block to a local engine specialist, he think +0,25mm piston is enough, but to be sure he will take of metal step by step to figure it out....
My questions is, I have been given link to imdpistons who are +0,5mm, is it possible to get +0,25mm?
I guess no, since nobody have talked about that earlier here?
I have crated a separate thread for the big bore:
www.kzrider.com/forum/2-engine/607514-up...e-to-bigbore-pistons
My questions is, I have been given link to imdpistons who are +0,5mm, is it possible to get +0,25mm?
I guess no, since nobody have talked about that earlier here?
I have crated a separate thread for the big bore:
www.kzrider.com/forum/2-engine/607514-up...e-to-bigbore-pistons
1981 KZ650-D4, with 1981 z750L engine (Wiensco 810 big bore).
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www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/607213...sr-1981-z750l-engine
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12 Dec 2017 10:31 - 12 Dec 2017 10:33 #775903
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2-04 R1, 81 CSR1000, 81 LTD1000, 2-83 GPz1100, 3-79CBX, 81 CBX, 3-XS650, 84 Venture, +parts
Quote "speed costs money...how fast do you want to go?" (Which Z movie?)
Universal formula for how many motorcycles one should own = n + 1, where n is how many motorcycles you own right now....
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No, most ADDED - AFTERMARKET oversize pistons for Japanese bikes come in only two overbore sizes, at best. So only 0.5 mm and 1.0 mm over stock are typically available. Don't confuse "oversize" with "big bore" pistons - oversize are meant to repair slight damage and return stock performance (most of the time). Big bore is usually associated with increasing performance / power.
2-04 R1, 81 CSR1000, 81 LTD1000, 2-83 GPz1100, 3-79CBX, 81 CBX, 3-XS650, 84 Venture, +parts
Quote "speed costs money...how fast do you want to go?" (Which Z movie?)
Universal formula for how many motorcycles one should own = n + 1, where n is how many motorcycles you own right now....
Last edit: 12 Dec 2017 10:33 by Kray-Z.
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13 Dec 2017 07:39 #775962
by gordone
1981 KZ650-D4, with 1981 z750L engine (Wiensco 810 big bore).
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www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/607213...sr-1981-z750l-engine
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I think have descied to go for overize +0.5mm pistons.... combination of norwegian regulation and possibility of coming into new problems with my bike... I want to run nice for the summer and I`m happy with exssitign power for now...
I have started a fresh threat about finding the best option of pistons, when it comes to +0.5mm pistons.
kzrider.com/forum/2-engine/607519-750cc-oversize-piston-0-5mm
I have started a fresh threat about finding the best option of pistons, when it comes to +0.5mm pistons.
kzrider.com/forum/2-engine/607519-750cc-oversize-piston-0-5mm
1981 KZ650-D4, with 1981 z750L engine (Wiensco 810 big bore).
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www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/607213...sr-1981-z750l-engine
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15 Dec 2017 14:35 #776094
by gordone
1981 KZ650-D4, with 1981 z750L engine (Wiensco 810 big bore).
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www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/607213...sr-1981-z750l-engine
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When I talked with the engine workshop earlier these week, he had a theory engine has been standing for a while at some point, and it had started to corrod (corrosion) in the cylinder, and when you start up you have kind of dust combine with the heat... Could be the reason for these damage.
1981 KZ650-D4, with 1981 z750L engine (Wiensco 810 big bore).
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www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/607213...sr-1981-z750l-engine
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15 Dec 2017 16:39 #776097
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Condensation.
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16 Dec 2017 03:47 #776122
by gordone
1981 KZ650-D4, with 1981 z750L engine (Wiensco 810 big bore).
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www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/607213...sr-1981-z750l-engine
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I have ordered the big bore kit now... hehe Hope I don`t have done something stupid, I don`t want a test bike for races... I want a bike a I can trust
kzrider.com/forum/2-engine/607514-upgrad...tons?start=20#776121
kzrider.com/forum/2-engine/607514-upgrad...tons?start=20#776121
1981 KZ650-D4, with 1981 z750L engine (Wiensco 810 big bore).
Project:
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/607213...sr-1981-z750l-engine
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