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KZ 750 B Twin Cylinder jug stuck, can not rmove...
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25 Jun 2017 15:38 #765369
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I have a 1978 KZ 750 twin that I am trying to remove the cylinder jugs. It does not want to budge. It appears that one of the bolts that hold it in place has been rusting for the past 39 years and has rust welded the jugs in place. I am trying to pry it up at the pry points but no dice. I do not want to wreck the aluminum. Has anyone had problems with this and might have a solution? Thanks
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25 Jun 2017 18:46 - 25 Jun 2017 18:47 #765380
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1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)
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Are you positive you removed all the cylinder head nuts and bolts? According to the manual there are 11 of them. Ed
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26 Jun 2017 09:51 #765420
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The Head is off, all the nuts and bolts are removed. I think the problem is the bolts sticking up through the block are rusted and locked the block in place. I think it might be one or two. I heard this is common with these engines because water can get down the shaft and cause the bolt to rust, locking it in place. I put some CLP Breakfree military rifle cleaner down the shafts for 24 hrs but not sure if it is working. Maybe a better product for disolving rust?
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26 Jun 2017 10:16 #765421
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Original owner 78 1000 LTD
Mr Turbo Race Kit, MTC 1075 Turbo pistons by PitStop Performance , Falicon Ultra Lite Super Crank, APE everything. Les Holt @ PDM's Billet Goodies . Frame by Chuck Kurzawa @ Logghe Chassis . Deep sump 5qt oil pan. RIP Bill Hahn
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Do the crank and pistons move ?
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26 Jun 2017 10:42 #765423
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Yes, the pistons move up and down freely.
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26 Jun 2017 13:04 #765431
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For breaking loose rusted fasteners, Cano Kroil, or a mixture of equal parts ATF and acetone seem to be best. Daily applications for several days may be needed.
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26 Jun 2017 13:31 #765432
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ATF?
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26 Jun 2017 13:58 - 26 Jun 2017 14:05 #765433
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My 1975 Z 1 B 900 Project
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Automatic Transmission Fluid
ATF and acetone 50/50 mix is also called Magic Mechanic Fluid (MMF)
A self made rust dissolver
BTW
Have you remove this bolt nut
ATF and acetone 50/50 mix is also called Magic Mechanic Fluid (MMF)
A self made rust dissolver
BTW
Have you remove this bolt nut
My 1975 Z 1 B 900 Project
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/605133...ears-deep-sleep-mode
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26 Jun 2017 14:41 #765438
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Yeah, I removed that nut as well......sigh.
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26 Jun 2017 14:49 #765441
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Once you exhaust options of using rust dissolving fluids , if still remains stuck 2 options are ..
2x4 against block and strike with dead blow hammer. ( spreads load and point of impact to a number of fins ) work back and forth with blows to opposite sides of block
and get a stud pulling tool and try and twist the offending stud to break the bond
2x4 against block and strike with dead blow hammer. ( spreads load and point of impact to a number of fins ) work back and forth with blows to opposite sides of block
and get a stud pulling tool and try and twist the offending stud to break the bond
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26 Jun 2017 14:53 #765443
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My 1975 Z 1 B 900 Project
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Okay, you can try to turn the cylinder blots out a little bit to loosen the rust by countering two nuts on it.
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26 Jun 2017 15:14 #765446
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I used the ATF/acetone mixture and heat on broken bolts. Once I heated them up I could see bubbling and poured more on it. After a few tries they came right out. I was about to suggest the 2X4 method but Dave beat me to it.
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