Valve gap still not in spec after shim swap
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Valve gap still not in spec after shim swap
18 Feb 2016 11:54
I was switching out the shims because alot of the valves literally had no gap at all. Keep in mind I swapped out the head because the other one was damaged. Not mechanically but physically. So anyways I followed the kz650 valve gap chart and it's still not in spec. They do have a gap now but not enough. They're like .06 or .07. Not the .08-.18 as specified. I mean obviously I would just have to go down another size but maybe I measured wrong or read the graph wrong.
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Re: Valve gap still not in spec after shim swap
18 Feb 2016 12:02
It's not unusual to have to move two shim sizes if the engine has been neglected. Hopefully the valves and seats are not permanently damaged from the neglect.
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Re: Valve gap still not in spec after shim swap
18 Feb 2016 12:31
If you had no gap then you had no idea how tight they were so all you can do is add something to give a gap which becomes your new start point.
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Re: Valve gap still not in spec after shim swap
18 Feb 2016 13:09
I had the same thing. I set them large. 500 miles later two had to be adjusted again.
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Re: Valve gap still not in spec after shim swap
18 Feb 2016 14:07 - 18 Feb 2016 14:09
This is the reason you should always have a very thin 2.00 to 2.20 shim in your parts bag so you can stick a KNOWN thin shim thickness in place of those that have zero gap.... measure the too wide of a gap with the thin shim, look at your chart, then decide what shim is needed to get the gap at around .002"-.004".
Really kinda Z1 "Engine Maintenance Tune Up" 101 in my honest opinion.
Really kinda Z1 "Engine Maintenance Tune Up" 101 in my honest opinion.
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Re: Valve gap still not in spec after shim swap
19 Feb 2016 07:11missionkz wrote: This is the reason you should always have a very thin 2.00 to 2.20 shim in your parts bag so you can stick a KNOWN thin shim thickness in place of those that have zero gap.... measure the too wide of a gap with the thin shim, look at your chart, then decide what shim is needed to get the gap at around .002"-.004".
Really kinda Z1 "Engine Maintenance Tune Up" 101 in my honest opinion.
Isn't .002 or .004 too small of a gap though?
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Re: Valve gap still not in spec after shim swap
19 Feb 2016 07:17
No, that's the low end.
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Re: Valve gap still not in spec after shim swap
19 Feb 2016 07:41 - 19 Feb 2016 07:56
If you have zero gap, you don't know if the valve is closed and seated, therefore you can only guess a the size of the "minus gap" that exists in that situation. When you go to a thinner shim the amount you pick, it could, in theory, still leave you with no gap.
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Re: Valve gap still not in spec after shim swap
19 Feb 2016 07:43swest wrote: No, that's the low end.
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I'm measuring in mm though
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Re: Valve gap still not in spec after shim swap
19 Feb 2016 07:47
Set them as per your manual.
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Re: Valve gap still not in spec after shim swap
19 Feb 2016 07:51 - 19 Feb 2016 07:51swest wrote: Set them as per your manual.
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Which is .08-.18MM
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