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Bench setting of valves after rebuild 1982 GPZ750
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17 Jan 2016 17:02 #707079
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1976 KZ900A4
1976 KZ900A4
1978 KZ1000A2
1983 ZX750 A1 aka GPz 750
1983 ZX750 A1
1973 CL350K4
1984 ZX1100 A2 aka GPz1100
1969 CT90
2006 Burgman 400
Replied by ayeckley on topic Bench setting of valves after rebuild 1982 GPZ750
Anybody know what the max acceptable amount would be? I figure I'd have to pull the head and measure everything to figure out the answer for myself.
These didn't come with Stellite tips or anything similarly fancy, did they?
These didn't come with Stellite tips or anything similarly fancy, did they?
1976 KZ900A4
1976 KZ900A4
1978 KZ1000A2
1983 ZX750 A1 aka GPz 750
1983 ZX750 A1
1973 CL350K4
1984 ZX1100 A2 aka GPz1100
1969 CT90
2006 Burgman 400
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17 Jan 2016 18:18 #707086
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Do you have a manual? It should be in there.
Steve
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18 Jan 2016 02:57 #707104
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Going by the book the max you can tip the stem is 0.30mm before you run close to the bucket riding on the retainers.
If you have access to a lathe and know what you are doing the collets and retainers can be modified to allow around 1mm to be removed.
After that you are looking at trying new valves to pull back the clearance and if that doesn't work then 1mm oversize valves will get back the clearance as the larger diameter valve head will sit on the unworn outer edge of the seat ( this is the main reason most older heads get bigger valves rather than for any performance advantage )
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Replied by zed1015 on topic Bench setting of valves after rebuild 1982 GPZ750
ayeckley wrote: Anybody know what the max acceptable amount would be? I figure I'd have to pull the head and measure everything to figure out the answer for myself.
These didn't come with Stellite tips or anything similarly fancy, did they?
Going by the book the max you can tip the stem is 0.30mm before you run close to the bucket riding on the retainers.
If you have access to a lathe and know what you are doing the collets and retainers can be modified to allow around 1mm to be removed.
After that you are looking at trying new valves to pull back the clearance and if that doesn't work then 1mm oversize valves will get back the clearance as the larger diameter valve head will sit on the unworn outer edge of the seat ( this is the main reason most older heads get bigger valves rather than for any performance advantage )
AIR CORRECTOR JETS FOR VM CARBS AND ETHANOL RESISTANT VITON CHOKE PLUNGER SEAL REPLACMENT FOR ALL CLASSIC AND MODERN MOTORCYCLE CARBURETTORS
kzrider.com/forum/23-for-sale/611992-air-corrector-jets-
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18 Jan 2016 03:26 #707107
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That's just it - the Factory Service Manual for this model says that they should not be ground at all.
1976 KZ900A4
1976 KZ900A4
1978 KZ1000A2
1983 ZX750 A1 aka GPz 750
1983 ZX750 A1
1973 CL350K4
1984 ZX1100 A2 aka GPz1100
1969 CT90
2006 Burgman 400
Replied by ayeckley on topic Bench setting of valves after rebuild 1982 GPZ750
swest wrote: Do you have a manual? It should be in there.
Steve
That's just it - the Factory Service Manual for this model says that they should not be ground at all.
1976 KZ900A4
1976 KZ900A4
1978 KZ1000A2
1983 ZX750 A1 aka GPz 750
1983 ZX750 A1
1973 CL350K4
1984 ZX1100 A2 aka GPz1100
1969 CT90
2006 Burgman 400
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18 Jan 2016 03:50 - 18 Jan 2016 04:53 #707110
by Nessism
The FSM provides a CAUTION statement warning about possible contact between the split keepers and the bucket if grinding the valve, but in reality there is plenty of clearance to tip them a little bit. Keep the cutting down to .3mm as mentioned and you will be fine. Go for .2mm if you are worried. That's four shim sizes which will give your engine more life before you get into the really small shims sizes.
BTW, all the valves on my recently rebuilt 750E engine were tipped and there is plenty of stem sticking up above the keepers so no worry.
Oh, and on further reflection I believe the reason my bench check on the needed shims was too thin is because I checked the valves with the cam resting on the head. If you do this then I'd bump your shim sizes one shim larger since the cam will be floating somewhere above this point when the adjacent springs are pushing up on the cam.
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ayeckley wrote:
swest wrote: Do you have a manual? It should be in there.
Steve
That's just it - the Factory Service Manual for this model says that they should not be ground at all.
The FSM provides a CAUTION statement warning about possible contact between the split keepers and the bucket if grinding the valve, but in reality there is plenty of clearance to tip them a little bit. Keep the cutting down to .3mm as mentioned and you will be fine. Go for .2mm if you are worried. That's four shim sizes which will give your engine more life before you get into the really small shims sizes.
BTW, all the valves on my recently rebuilt 750E engine were tipped and there is plenty of stem sticking up above the keepers so no worry.
Oh, and on further reflection I believe the reason my bench check on the needed shims was too thin is because I checked the valves with the cam resting on the head. If you do this then I'd bump your shim sizes one shim larger since the cam will be floating somewhere above this point when the adjacent springs are pushing up on the cam.
Last edit: 18 Jan 2016 04:53 by Nessism.
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