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09 Jan 2016 19:45 #706106
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1982 KZ1000 LTD parts donor
1981 KZ1000 LTD awaiting resurrection
2000 ZRX1100 not ridden enough
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Which year and model 1100 do you have? I have a PDF copy of the 1981-82 manual and I believe it has the 83 supplement.
1982 KZ1000 LTD parts donor
1981 KZ1000 LTD awaiting resurrection
2000 ZRX1100 not ridden enough
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10 Jan 2016 03:42 #706111
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83 Kawasaki Kz1100 LTD
81 Honda cm400
72 Suzuki T500 Titan** 2-stroke
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Thanks steve,
I believe the .440 lift is the first step
Correct me if im wrong but stock would be .425 lift?
TexasKZ, my bike is an 1983 kz1100 LTD L1. It would be great if you had a pdf manual that covers it.
Thanks guys
I believe the .440 lift is the first step
Correct me if im wrong but stock would be .425 lift?
TexasKZ, my bike is an 1983 kz1100 LTD L1. It would be great if you had a pdf manual that covers it.
Thanks guys
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81 Honda cm400
72 Suzuki T500 Titan** 2-stroke
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10 Jan 2016 03:56 - 10 Jan 2016 06:58 #706112
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I would NOT use high tension valve springs. The extra pressure they provide will do nothing other than wear out your valve train faster since you are running stock cams. The stock springs are plenty strong for the job at hand. Measure the spring free length and compare to the specs in the proper Kawasaki factory service manual and reuse them if inside the service limit, or replace if they are sacked out.
I want to caution against using glass bead to clean the head. I've not studied the bigger engine heads but on my 750 there are blind oil port passages that are difficult to flush out if you get media down inside. Extra care is needed to plug all these passages before blasting, and then you need to be really careful to flush everything afterwards.
When cleaning carbon from a head I dumped the head inside a 5 gallon pail with a lid (a bucket used to store chlorine tablets so the container is chemical safe) and then I dumped a gallon of carb dip over the head. I swirled the mix around every few hours and after a few days the carbon was softened and was easily removed with only minimal scrapping.
After this I plugged all the various passages and blasted with blasting soda. For final clean I used hot water to dissolve any remaining soda.
I want to caution against using glass bead to clean the head. I've not studied the bigger engine heads but on my 750 there are blind oil port passages that are difficult to flush out if you get media down inside. Extra care is needed to plug all these passages before blasting, and then you need to be really careful to flush everything afterwards.
When cleaning carbon from a head I dumped the head inside a 5 gallon pail with a lid (a bucket used to store chlorine tablets so the container is chemical safe) and then I dumped a gallon of carb dip over the head. I swirled the mix around every few hours and after a few days the carbon was softened and was easily removed with only minimal scrapping.
After this I plugged all the various passages and blasted with blasting soda. For final clean I used hot water to dissolve any remaining soda.
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10 Jan 2016 04:12 #706113
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10 Jan 2016 04:13 - 10 Jan 2016 04:15 #706115
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83 Kawasaki Kz1100 LTD
81 Honda cm400
72 Suzuki T500 Titan** 2-stroke
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Thanks nessism,
I will measure my springs today an hopefully can reuse them since i cant find stock lift springs anywhere. Im still pretty curious about vabor blasting, if anyone knows anything more about it. It uses micro glass beads mixed with water and supposedly leaves no glass beads impregnated or sitting behind because of the water washing it away. Its actually call a metal finishing process rather than just cleaning. But if vapor blasting doesnt seem to be safe ill give your carb dip method a shot.
Who or what is CRH??
Thanks for the all the advice guys
-Greg
I will measure my springs today an hopefully can reuse them since i cant find stock lift springs anywhere. Im still pretty curious about vabor blasting, if anyone knows anything more about it. It uses micro glass beads mixed with water and supposedly leaves no glass beads impregnated or sitting behind because of the water washing it away. Its actually call a metal finishing process rather than just cleaning. But if vapor blasting doesnt seem to be safe ill give your carb dip method a shot.
Who or what is CRH??
Thanks for the all the advice guys
-Greg
83 Kawasaki Kz1100 LTD
81 Honda cm400
72 Suzuki T500 Titan** 2-stroke
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10 Jan 2016 04:18 #706117
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Check my poser thread for useful information. I don't have my specs here, I'm at my daughter's seeing my new grandchild. I believe the cams you're talking about are hot cams with high lift. They require shim under lifters and stronger springs and hardware.
store.schnitzracing.com/web-cam-camshaft...wasaki-kz900-kz1000/
kzzone.com/
kzrider.com/forum/2-engine/597654-poser?limitstart=0
Proud new daddy. I remember.
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store.schnitzracing.com/web-cam-camshaft...wasaki-kz900-kz1000/
kzzone.com/
kzrider.com/forum/2-engine/597654-poser?limitstart=0
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10 Jan 2016 04:45 #706120
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Original owner 78 1000 LTD
Mr Turbo Race Kit, MTC 1075 Turbo pistons by PitStop Performance , Falicon Ultra Lite Super Crank, APE everything. Les Holt @ PDM's Billet Goodies . Frame by Chuck Kurzawa @ Logghe Chassis . Deep sump 5qt oil pan. RIP Bill Hahn
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CRH is Cavanaugh Racing Heads Larry Cavanaugh who I mentioned before. Top Notch shop for Kaw work . Especially heads.
PM Nils , Noble Hops here on KZR to discuss vapor blasting . Thats his main business
Dave
PM Nils , Noble Hops here on KZR to discuss vapor blasting . Thats his main business
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Original owner 78 1000 LTD
Mr Turbo Race Kit, MTC 1075 Turbo pistons by PitStop Performance , Falicon Ultra Lite Super Crank, APE everything. Les Holt @ PDM's Billet Goodies . Frame by Chuck Kurzawa @ Logghe Chassis . Deep sump 5qt oil pan. RIP Bill Hahn
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10 Jan 2016 06:43 #706133
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OEM Kawasaki valve springs seem to be readily available from any common dealership source, either online or local.
Since your compression numbers are exemplary, I don't think you need to have the head serviced other than cleaning and replacing the valve stem seals. Most likely the valve springs are perfectly okay too. Same goes for the pistons and rings. No reason to change them although I'd most definitely pull the cylinder and replace the base gasket and all seals in the top end while the head is off. For gaskets I'd only use OEM Kawasaki parts. Aftermarket gasket kits vary in quality from mediocre to downright shit. OEM gaskets can be found for good prices on ebay so research and find the part numbers, then look around for the best prices.
www.partzilla.com/parts/search/Kawasaki/...re/VALVES/parts.html
Since your compression numbers are exemplary, I don't think you need to have the head serviced other than cleaning and replacing the valve stem seals. Most likely the valve springs are perfectly okay too. Same goes for the pistons and rings. No reason to change them although I'd most definitely pull the cylinder and replace the base gasket and all seals in the top end while the head is off. For gaskets I'd only use OEM Kawasaki parts. Aftermarket gasket kits vary in quality from mediocre to downright shit. OEM gaskets can be found for good prices on ebay so research and find the part numbers, then look around for the best prices.
www.partzilla.com/parts/search/Kawasaki/...re/VALVES/parts.html
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10 Jan 2016 06:44 #706135
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1978 KZ650 b-2
700cc Wiseco kit 10 to 1.
1980 KZ750 cam, ape springs, stock clutch/ Barnett springs.
Vance and Hines Header w/ comp baffle and Ape pods, Dyna S and green coils, copper wires.
29MM smooth bores W/ 17.5 pilots, 0-6s and 117.5 main
16/42 gearing X ring chain and alum rear JT sprocket.
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I went with APE springs but had him shim the heights of them (90% sure of my figures need to ask him again for sure) so they were at 80lbs instead of the normal 90 lbs for a hotter cam. possibly a little over kill for a stock 750 cam (.304 vs .330 lift) but A GPZ or med Web cam (.365 plus) may someday be in my future and wanted to be ready for that.
I am happy with their head work but I wish I would have checked with Larry ..... the work I see from him is awesome. Wanted to keep the head natural for some reason and wish I would have had it vapor blasted ...... its nicer than most stock but glass beading and vapor blasting really looks sharp.
Would love to see you start a thread on vapor blasting Noble Hops if you see this ...... some of your work brings a tear to my eye.
Four sons Steve and not a grand child yet...... ones to young but ones thinking about it.....
I am happy with their head work but I wish I would have checked with Larry ..... the work I see from him is awesome. Wanted to keep the head natural for some reason and wish I would have had it vapor blasted ...... its nicer than most stock but glass beading and vapor blasting really looks sharp.
Would love to see you start a thread on vapor blasting Noble Hops if you see this ...... some of your work brings a tear to my eye.
Four sons Steve and not a grand child yet...... ones to young but ones thinking about it.....
1978 KZ650 b-2
700cc Wiseco kit 10 to 1.
1980 KZ750 cam, ape springs, stock clutch/ Barnett springs.
Vance and Hines Header w/ comp baffle and Ape pods, Dyna S and green coils, copper wires.
29MM smooth bores W/ 17.5 pilots, 0-6s and 117.5 main
16/42 gearing X ring chain and alum rear JT sprocket.
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10 Jan 2016 07:13 - 10 Jan 2016 07:26 #706144
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No eBay APP ID and/or Cert ID defined in Kunena configurationIt will come in time. :whistle:
These are the springs I bought. New valves too.
kzrider.com/forum/2-engine/596420-valves
They're a little stiffer than stock. Now my valves sing like new.
Steve
These are the springs I bought. New valves too.
kzrider.com/forum/2-engine/596420-valves
They're a little stiffer than stock. Now my valves sing like new.
Steve
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10 Jan 2016 16:52 #706226
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83 Kawasaki Kz1100 LTD
81 Honda cm400
72 Suzuki T500 Titan** 2-stroke
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With a couple of you mentioning gasket quality, can anyone vouch for vesrah gaskets? I found a top end kit that has everything all in one, including valve seals
83 Kawasaki Kz1100 LTD
81 Honda cm400
72 Suzuki T500 Titan** 2-stroke
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10 Jan 2016 17:00 #706228
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No. I buy my gaskets from one guy or Cometic.
Steve
kzrider.com/forum/13-bike-related/599607-the-good-guys#691856
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kzrider.com/forum/13-bike-related/599607-the-good-guys#691856
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