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16 Oct 2015 01:35 #694720 by ThatGPzGuy
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Where is the sensor installed? In the crossover pipe?

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1982 GPz750 R1
1974 Kawasaki H1
1976 Kawasaki KZ400
1979 Yamaha XS650 cafe'
2001 KZ1000P
2001 Yamaha YZ426
1981 Honda XR200 stroked in an '89 CR125 chassis
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16 Oct 2015 02:11 #694722 by TexasKZ
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Here is a previous discussion of O2 sensors with some links to earlier ones.

www.kzrider.com/forum/2-engine/591815-na...band-fuel-air#612713

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16 Oct 2015 05:34 - 16 Oct 2015 05:51 #694741 by KZB2 650
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ThatGPzGuy wrote: Where is the sensor installed? In the crossover pipe?


I see where it is installed in TexasKZ's link but is there a fitting that needs to welded in then this screws on or will it just screw into a drilled and tapped hole? And can it be installed on the inside so its hidden ?

Bought a color tune that I hav'nt used yet and you guys got me thinkin on this.

I see in the Apsx add it has a nut so I guess you just drill a hole and connect it this way...... problem with that is my collector has been on for 32 years and I could not even budge it a few years back. :pinch:

1978 KZ650 b-2
700cc Wiseco kit 10 to 1.
1980 KZ750 cam, ape springs, stock clutch/ Barnett springs.
Vance and Hines Header w/ comp baffle and Ape pods, Dyna S and green coils, copper wires.
29MM smooth bores W/ 17.5 pilots, 0-6s and 117.5 main
16/42 gearing X ring chain and alum rear JT sprocket.
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16 Oct 2015 07:17 - 16 Oct 2015 07:20 #694748 by jackleberry
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ThatGPzGuy wrote: Where is the sensor installed? In the crossover pipe?


I haven't decided that. Personally, I was just going to shove the sensor in the tailpipe. The AFM is only needed to tune things up---I'm not sure I'd want to install it permanently.

To get the best results with tuning idle mixtures, you'd want to be able to do one cylinder at a time--and that would require installing
bungs in each header.

[strike]On the other hand, on a bike with a 4 into 2 exhaust, it seems that by unplugging cylinders 2 & 3, you could tune #1 by sticking the sensor in the left tail pipe and then #4 by sticking it in the right. Then plug 2 & 3 back in and unplug 1 & 4 and repeat for tuning 2 & 3. May sound like a hassle, but that's really no worse than all the fiddling with the colortune (assuming you only buy one and not a set of 4 which would be crazy expensive).[/strike]

(EDIT: nevermind... not enough coffee. the disabled cylinders would screw up the reading)

Tuning jets could be one with an overall reading. So yeah, I think installing in the crossover would be good for that.

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16 Oct 2015 17:19 #694812 by zukdave
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The cross over tube will not have enough exhaust flow to work right.
A wide band with one 02 sensor will only work in a 4 to 1 exhaust system
and the sensor needs to be installed in the collector so it reads all 4 cylinders.

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APE valve spring's.
APE Track King clutch.
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16 Oct 2015 17:29 #694815 by SWest
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On my bike the 2:00 position would be pointing inside the frame. Good place for it but I can't see spending the money.
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18 Oct 2015 04:16 #695022 by Old Man Rock
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Here's where I placed my set up (Mid Pipe) and gutted cluster.


1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter

Phoenix, Az
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18 Oct 2015 04:21 - 18 Oct 2015 04:25 #695023 by Old Man Rock
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As for the color tune....
Video of operation I did years ago on my KZ900....
Crank up the volume where you can hear by adjusting your carb the RPM response...



Operation & Tunning Steps Chart:



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1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter

Phoenix, Az
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18 Oct 2015 04:42 - 18 Oct 2015 04:43 #695027 by SWest
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OMR, it's too blurry to read. Could you send me your charts PDF by e-mail? It's in my profile.
Thanks
Steve
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18 Oct 2015 06:45 #695049 by 9er rider
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yea lets see those

76 kz 900 1075 76 kz 900 a4 78 kz 1000 ltd

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18 Oct 2015 06:55 #695051 by ThatGPzGuy
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It's on their website Gunson Colortune
I have had good results with mine.

Jim
North GA
2016 Yamaha FJR1300ES
1982 GPz750 R1
1974 Kawasaki H1
1976 Kawasaki KZ400
1979 Yamaha XS650 cafe'
2001 KZ1000P
2001 Yamaha YZ426
1981 Honda XR200 stroked in an '89 CR125 chassis
1965 Mustang
1967 Triumph GT6
1976 Bronco
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18 Oct 2015 11:26 #695075 by Old Man Rock
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1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter

Phoenix, Az

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