New valves and seals....keepers?
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New valves and seals....keepers?
27 Apr 2015 12:39
What is the general consensus regarding using new valve stem keepers with a brand new valve after grind and fitting?
Obviously new stem/guide seals is a no brainer at this stage and costs,
Obviously new stem/guide seals is a no brainer at this stage and costs,
Bruce
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2016 Triumph T120 Bonneville
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Re: New valves and seals....keepers?
27 Apr 2015 13:27
It is good practice to install valve guides if the seats are to be ground. New valves should have new keepers. At that point, springs should also be replaced.
A good shop will not grind the seats without new guides.
Steve
A good shop will not grind the seats without new guides.
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Re: New valves and seals....keepers?
27 Apr 2015 15:37 - 27 Apr 2015 15:41
Very good... getting my self prepared for the bad news with regards to that head I thought was rebuilt years ago...
I have nearly a complete set of NOS valves for these late 70's Z1 KZ900-KZ1000 heads but no keepers, guides, springs or seals. :S
Added: I am wondering, as suggested a few days back, if maybe I did pop the rebuilt head on this bike years ago and this worn one is my original head with only +25K miles on it.... maybe in my youth I was a little rough on it. LOL
... I'm gettin' old and just don't know. I've had too many project Yamahas, Hondas, Zs and KZs bikes over the last 40 years.
I have nearly a complete set of NOS valves for these late 70's Z1 KZ900-KZ1000 heads but no keepers, guides, springs or seals. :S
Added: I am wondering, as suggested a few days back, if maybe I did pop the rebuilt head on this bike years ago and this worn one is my original head with only +25K miles on it.... maybe in my youth I was a little rough on it. LOL
... I'm gettin' old and just don't know. I've had too many project Yamahas, Hondas, Zs and KZs bikes over the last 40 years.
Bruce
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2016 Triumph T120 Bonneville
Far North East Metro Denver Colorado
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Re: New valves and seals....keepers?
27 Apr 2015 18:23
I've reused both springs and keepers many a time. Measure spring height and if they meet the spec, I wouldn't be afraid of running them assuming you are not going to be racing to redline all the time. On a stock bike the keepers should be fine too.
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Re: New valves and seals....keepers?
27 Apr 2015 21:10
Cheap insurance. I replaced mine. Always wanted to and waited until I could.
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Re: New valves and seals....keepers?
28 Apr 2015 01:39
No need to fit new keepers unless you need an excuse to waste money.
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Re: New valves and seals....keepers?
28 Apr 2015 12:18LOL... I've already done that on this machine over the last +37 years.zed1015 wrote: No need to fit new keepers unless you need an excuse to waste money.
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