New valves and seals....keepers?
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27 Apr 2015 12:39 #669775
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1977 KZ1000A1
2016 Triumph T120 Bonneville
Far North East Metro Denver Colorado
New valves and seals....keepers? was created by missionkz
What is the general consensus regarding using new valve stem keepers with a brand new valve after grind and fitting?
Obviously new stem/guide seals is a no brainer at this stage and costs,
Obviously new stem/guide seals is a no brainer at this stage and costs,
Bruce
1977 KZ1000A1
2016 Triumph T120 Bonneville
Far North East Metro Denver Colorado
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27 Apr 2015 13:27 #669784
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It is good practice to install valve guides if the seats are to be ground. New valves should have new keepers. At that point, springs should also be replaced.
A good shop will not grind the seats without new guides.
Steve
A good shop will not grind the seats without new guides.
Steve
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27 Apr 2015 15:37 - 27 Apr 2015 15:41 #669796
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1977 KZ1000A1
2016 Triumph T120 Bonneville
Far North East Metro Denver Colorado
Replied by missionkz on topic New valves and seals....keepers?
Very good... getting my self prepared for the bad news with regards to that head I thought was rebuilt years ago...
I have nearly a complete set of NOS valves for these late 70's Z1 KZ900-KZ1000 heads but no keepers, guides, springs or seals. :S
Added: I am wondering, as suggested a few days back, if maybe I did pop the rebuilt head on this bike years ago and this worn one is my original head with only +25K miles on it.... maybe in my youth I was a little rough on it. LOL
... I'm gettin' old and just don't know. I've had too many project Yamahas, Hondas, Zs and KZs bikes over the last 40 years.
I have nearly a complete set of NOS valves for these late 70's Z1 KZ900-KZ1000 heads but no keepers, guides, springs or seals. :S
Added: I am wondering, as suggested a few days back, if maybe I did pop the rebuilt head on this bike years ago and this worn one is my original head with only +25K miles on it.... maybe in my youth I was a little rough on it. LOL
... I'm gettin' old and just don't know. I've had too many project Yamahas, Hondas, Zs and KZs bikes over the last 40 years.
Bruce
1977 KZ1000A1
2016 Triumph T120 Bonneville
Far North East Metro Denver Colorado
Last edit: 27 Apr 2015 15:41 by missionkz. Reason: A thought
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27 Apr 2015 18:23 #669812
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I've reused both springs and keepers many a time. Measure spring height and if they meet the spec, I wouldn't be afraid of running them assuming you are not going to be racing to redline all the time. On a stock bike the keepers should be fine too.
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27 Apr 2015 21:10 #669827
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Cheap insurance. I replaced mine. Always wanted to and waited until I could.
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28 Apr 2015 01:39 #669837
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AIR CORRECTOR JETS FOR VM CARBS AND ETHANOL RESISTANT VITON CHOKE PLUNGER SEAL REPLACMENT FOR ALL CLASSIC AND MODERN MOTORCYCLE CARBURETTORS
kzrider.com/forum/23-for-sale/611992-air-corrector-jets-
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No need to fit new keepers unless you need an excuse to waste money.
AIR CORRECTOR JETS FOR VM CARBS AND ETHANOL RESISTANT VITON CHOKE PLUNGER SEAL REPLACMENT FOR ALL CLASSIC AND MODERN MOTORCYCLE CARBURETTORS
kzrider.com/forum/23-for-sale/611992-air-corrector-jets-
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28 Apr 2015 12:18 #669884
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1977 KZ1000A1
2016 Triumph T120 Bonneville
Far North East Metro Denver Colorado
Replied by missionkz on topic New valves and seals....keepers?
LOL... I've already done that on this machine over the last +37 years.zed1015 wrote: No need to fit new keepers unless you need an excuse to waste money.
Bruce
1977 KZ1000A1
2016 Triumph T120 Bonneville
Far North East Metro Denver Colorado
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