Z1 engine with no serial numbers?

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Re: Z1 engine with no serial numbers?

29 Dec 2014 18:57 - 29 Dec 2014 19:00
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z1kzonly wrote:
K.D. HART wrote:
z1kzonly wrote: WHAT EVER? YOU DON'T LIKE IT?
I,LL BUY THE ENGINE CHEAP!
Did you eat lead paint chips as a kid?
Probaly, I lived in ghetto Buffalo, Lots of lacquer fumes too, I started priming, sanding and painting when I was 15.
Washed parts in trichloroethylene with no gloves, always had a 5 gal. pail of carb cleaner (Gunk Solder Seal) the real bad stuff in the garage. Just to name a few. Could explain it. Made it to 57 now, no growths or goiters growing on me yet, anyway.
But, I hope you got the motorcycle for a decent price, it looks nice!
And all the titles go by the frame Z1F--- Don't worry about engine, stamp the #'s yourself.
I have dozens of times including frames over the last 40 years.
They use a simple 1/4" basic, straight up stamp.
Now Harley was a whole different story, they purposely changed angles, had different star shapes, off center. Every few years back in the early days of Pan & Shovel head. They changed them up. Which the DOT new about.
Sorry if I offended anyone.

No offence taken buddy.
I just had to dish a little back to you, or I wouldn't be me. :woohoo:
I picked up the bike at a fare price and we were both happy. Nothing is cheap anymore.
P.S. I just received a Z1 reproduction seat I ordered. That LTD seat looks like shit on a Z1, and it can't latch either.
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Re: Z1 engine with no serial numbers?

30 Dec 2014 07:22
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To me, unstamped cases are super rare, so unless you need to number them I'd personally leave it blank as I am. The raised plinth framing the serial number area shows it is all legit.

Then if you must stamp them, then what number? unless you have a record of the original engine number. Kawi frame and engines were never sequential, from maybe one digit out on early three digit numbers, up to several hundred out for the later ones.

So by guessing what the number should be, and unless you are certain that the original engine has been scrapped, you could accidentally clone your new number an existing motor which is a lot more dodgy than just leaving it blank.
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Re: Z1 engine with no serial numbers?

30 Dec 2014 07:39
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I second what Tyrell says

Tyrell Corp wrote: To me, unstamped cases are super rare, so unless you need to number them I'd personally leave it blank as I am. The raised plinth framing the serial number area shows it is all legit.

Then if you must stamp them, then what number? unless you have a record of the original engine number. Kawi frame and engines were never sequential, from maybe one digit out on early three digit numbers, up to several hundred out for the later ones.

So by guessing what the number should be, and unless you are certain that the original engine has been scrapped, you could accidentally clone your new number an existing motor which is a lot more dodgy than just leaving it blank.

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Re: Z1 engine with no serial numbers?

30 Dec 2014 10:17
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+1
Don't stamp numbers into it. Ed
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Re: Z1 engine with no serial numbers?

31 Dec 2014 06:58
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650ed wrote: +1
Don't stamp numbers into it. Ed

I won't mess with stamping numbers on the plate.

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Re: Z1 engine with no serial numbers?

31 Dec 2014 08:21
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You could loose it that way.

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Re: Z1 engine with no serial numbers?

31 Dec 2014 08:57 - 31 Dec 2014 08:59
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I dont think iowa/idaho or whichever it is cares about engine numbers; IF you just had to do something, stamping your vin would be about the ONLY reasonable option. Z1F - instead of Z1E

Even then, who cares? If your motor vehicle branch doesnt nobody should. And ditching the ltd seat is always a good idea, they look like shit on the ltds even
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Re: Z1 engine with no serial numbers?

31 Dec 2014 12:00
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If you sell your bike the unstamped cases won't lower the value of it at all - unless you sell it claiming it's an untouched original bike with 23 miles on it or something like that. Here in Montana the DMV just looks at the official VIN on the neck.
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Re: Z1 engine with no serial numbers?

31 Dec 2014 12:54
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I too have an engine with an unstamped VIN. The cases were purchased over the Kawasaki parts counter and a VIN sticker was issued by the State of California. Ain't nothing but a thang.
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Re: Z1 engine with no serial numbers?

31 Dec 2014 15:40
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LEAVE IT BLANK Kenny!
Over 30 years with z1's, Currently down to only one 75, a j model dragbike, and 2 KZ1000 dragbikes.

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Re: Z1 engine with no serial numbers?

31 Dec 2014 16:28
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mtbspeedfreak wrote: I too have an engine with an unstamped VIN. The cases were purchased over the Kawasaki parts counter and a VIN sticker was issued by the State of California. Ain't nothing but a thang.

But now you have a salvage title.

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Re: Z1 engine with no serial numbers?

02 Jan 2015 16:35
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z1wiz wrote: LEAVE IT BLANK Kenny!

I'm not messing with it buddy. I'm leaving it blank.

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