Disaster-->My cam-chain broke

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08 Jul 2014 20:08 #639374 by bluezbike
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If it was me I would stay away from master links on cam chains.....I know this means splitting the cases but my personal opinion is that is safest.....you also can check up on any internal wear items that much easier

79 KZ 1000 LTD
77 KZ 1000 B1 LTD (awaiting electrical resurrection)
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08 Jul 2014 20:20 - 08 Jul 2014 20:28 #639378 by PLUMMEN
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kaw-a-holic wrote:

PLUMMEN wrote: Yours uses the old style chain,did they sell you an install tool with it for master link?


No. So I guess that is my answer. I will buy a masterlink installation tool. TY

Ive never actually done myself,thats why Im just guessing there has to be something involved other than just pounding on the pins to hold it together.
Im going to do a little investigating also. ;)
Heres what z1 enterprises lists for a cam chain tool,around $90.00

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09 Jul 2014 03:50 #639400 by undiablo
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You can buy the same kit in auction web sites for $25.

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Kawasaki KLR 650 2011
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09 Jul 2014 06:27 #639410 by fordtruck
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I happen to know of a guy that used a master link in his cam chain when he rebuilt his 77 KZ1000. He used the rivet tool pictured above and worked fine. The only thing I (I mean "he") advises is to not go crazy with the tool. It's easy to go to tight and bind up the link. I ( I mean "he") has several thousand miles on the motor now with no issues. ;)

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09 Jul 2014 09:42 - 09 Jul 2014 09:43 #639426 by tommyboah
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I am looking at getting the parts for rebuilding my engine, and I have been looking at the cam chains that are available. I cannot find any cam chains that are endless, other than from a sketchy shop on e-bay:

I do have a cam chain that has been used only for 500 miles or so, that was installed by my local Kawasaki shop before I rebuilt my engine the first time. It looks to be of decent quality (DID and Japan stamped on it), and it cannot be much worn from this low mileage? Here is a picture of the chain (a little dusty though):


Only thing i find strange is the way they riveted it. Looks a bit unprofessional, but I guess they rivet a lot of cam chains at this Kawasaki shop, so they must know that this will hold up.

Another alternative is to buy one (K&L is it?) from Z1 Enterprises with a master link and rivet it myself:


i already have the chain-breaker and rivet tool (Motion Pro) from Z1 Enterprises.

What do you think guys? Should I stick with my old chain with 500 miles on it already riveted, or should i start from scratch with a new one?

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09 Jul 2014 10:48 #639432 by Dr. Gamma
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The stock Kawasaki endless cam chain is shown as still available.

It isn't real cheap, but it is of good quality.

1972 H2 750 Cafe Racer built in 1974.
1976 KH400 Production Road Racer.
1979 Kz1000 MK. II Old AMA/WERA Superbike.
1986 RG500G 2 stroke terror.
1986 GSXR750RG The one with the clutch that rattles!

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09 Jul 2014 10:57 #639433 by PLUMMEN
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tommyboah wrote: I am looking at getting the parts for rebuilding my engine, and I have been looking at the cam chains that are available. I cannot find any cam chains that are endless, other than from a sketchy shop on e-bay:

I do have a cam chain that has been used only for 500 miles or so, that was installed by my local Kawasaki shop before I rebuilt my engine the first time. It looks to be of decent quality (DID and Japan stamped on it), and it cannot be much worn from this low mileage? Here is a picture of the chain (a little dusty though):



Only thing i find strange is the way they riveted it. Looks a bit unprofessional, but I guess they rivet a lot of cam chains at this Kawasaki shop, so they must know that this will hold up.

Another alternative is to buy one (K&L is it?) from Z1 Enterprises with a master link and rivet it myself:


i already have the chain-breaker and rivet tool (Motion Pro) from Z1 Enterprises.

What do you think guys? Should I stick with my old chain with 500 miles on it already riveted, or should i start from scratch with a new one?

That's pretty crude looking to put it mildly. :unsure:
If you check with brian/kz1006 about a crank have him check the cam chain out of the motor he gets the crank from,If its original and doesn't show much wear and is within the service limits Id stick it in there with the stock tensioner. :)

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09 Jul 2014 11:57 #639443 by pete greek1
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Looks like they used a screwdriver & a hammer :laugh: :laugh:
Pete

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09 Jul 2014 12:15 #639448 by PLUMMEN
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I was thinking a hammer and chisel! :unsure: :ohmy: :huh: :blink: :woohoo:

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