Will GPZ1100 1982 Gear assemblies fit a KZ1000

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05 Nov 2013 04:42 #612131 by Bozo
My Z1R has just suffered its first major breakdown, after the hard life it had something had to go. The bottom end is still original and has now done over 200K kms, my sprocket shaft feels like one of the internal bearings has lost its roller cage.
I have a brand new GPZ1100 engine (the bike fell off a truck before a race meeting with 50kms on the clock), now to my question, will the gear clusters, bearings and clutch fit my Z1R casings.
I know the GPZ drive shaft has a bigger diameter and the clutch is different in size.
If this has been discussed previously let me know, I couldn't find anything on this topic

First Permanent ride the Z1R since Dec1977 (220,000km) as of June 2015
Second permanent bike 1989 FJ1200 dyno'd 140RWH, great bike.
Third ride is now the Frankenstein 1981 GPZ1100B1, 1983 fully recon motor fitted LOVE THIS BIKE
Forth my work bike FJ1200 1989 (same type as FJ above)

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05 Nov 2013 07:44 #612148 by GPzEric
I don't think they are interchangeable with your 1015 engine. I think that the parts are interchangeable only from the 1981-1983 KZ1000J motors.

My wife asked me if I still loved her - I said "Honey, I love you more than new carburetor boots ! "
1982 KZ1100B2 (GPz)
1982 KZ750R1 (GPz)
(2) 1981 KZ550D1 (GPz) 1 mint, 1 under construction
1983 GS1100E

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05 Nov 2013 09:14 #612154 by Mcdroid

GPzEric wrote: I don't think they are interchangeable with your 1015 engine. I think that the parts are interchangeable only from the 1981-1983 KZ1000J motors.


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Michael
Victoria, Texas

1982 GPz750
1977 KZ1000A
1978 KZ1000A
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1975 Z2A

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05 Nov 2013 14:54 #612178 by turboking
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yes ...drag racers have used a gpz conversion for years to put a gpz trans into z cases :blink: .... different bearings and some machine work on the shift drum and some gears ..... :S go to dragbike.com and check, fitting GPZ gearbox into kz cases

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HDB1130528 Transmission conversion bearing. Allows the installation of a GPZ1100 transmission into a Z1/KZ1000 cases without the need for special shafts. 79.95

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1976 Kz900 1103 cc ATP turbo
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05 Nov 2013 15:25 #612182 by Bozo
Thanks guys, it was just a thought, although Turboking has me want to try. First I'll find out what requires changing before I panic, thanks for your input. :sick:

First Permanent ride the Z1R since Dec1977 (220,000km) as of June 2015
Second permanent bike 1989 FJ1200 dyno'd 140RWH, great bike.
Third ride is now the Frankenstein 1981 GPZ1100B1, 1983 fully recon motor fitted LOVE THIS BIKE
Forth my work bike FJ1200 1989 (same type as FJ above)

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05 Nov 2013 17:45 #612192 by jeffasaki
Replied by jeffasaki on topic Will GPZ1100 1982 Gear assemblies fit a KZ1000
my 2 cents
install a brand new gpz1100 engine into a 78 z1r frame and ride
whille you ride think about rebiulding the 78 then get it done
that way youll have a fresh motor ready after the next 200 000 km ;)

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05 Nov 2013 23:52 #612207 by Bozo
Sounds great BUT....
The sad part is that the Z1r top end is fantastic, the bike goes like hell, is smooth uses bugger all oil, sounds like new (no rattles), basically the GPZ motor would require a fair bit of work on the topend to equal the Z1R. The GPZ motor itself (from what I heard) requires work to fit in the Z1R frame anyway.

I was really hoping to to just install a new gear set (the easiest option) but the more I read, I might as well fix the current setup.

First Permanent ride the Z1R since Dec1977 (220,000km) as of June 2015
Second permanent bike 1989 FJ1200 dyno'd 140RWH, great bike.
Third ride is now the Frankenstein 1981 GPZ1100B1, 1983 fully recon motor fitted LOVE THIS BIKE
Forth my work bike FJ1200 1989 (same type as FJ above)

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06 Nov 2013 00:16 #612208 by Mcdroid

turboking wrote: yes ...drag racers have used a gpz conversion for years to put a gpz trans into z cases :blink: .... different bearings and some machine work on the shift drum and some gears ..... :S go to dragbike.com and check, fitting GPZ gearbox into kz cases

KZ zone
HDB1130528 Transmission conversion bearing. Allows the installation of a GPZ1100 transmission into a Z1/KZ1000 cases without the need for special shafts. 79.95


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Michael
Victoria, Texas

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1977 KZ1000A
1978 KZ1000A
1982 GPz1100
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06 Nov 2013 00:59 #612210 by Harvey1327
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You might be able to pick up a Z650 frame cheap. ??????????

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06 Nov 2013 04:19 #612216 by Bozo
Harvey, sounds good but I'm starting to get too old to piss fart around with odd bikes. My FJ1200 is giving me headaches without making hybrids.

Turboking, I must've been asleep when I read your comment, somehow I missed the kz zone conversation comment, thats brilliant mate, thankyou :woohoo: :woohoo:

First Permanent ride the Z1R since Dec1977 (220,000km) as of June 2015
Second permanent bike 1989 FJ1200 dyno'd 140RWH, great bike.
Third ride is now the Frankenstein 1981 GPZ1100B1, 1983 fully recon motor fitted LOVE THIS BIKE
Forth my work bike FJ1200 1989 (same type as FJ above)

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06 Nov 2013 15:11 #612265 by Bozo
Turboking, I'll go on a limb and ask if the clutch basket from the GPZ1100 (1982) will fit onto KZ1000 cases

First Permanent ride the Z1R since Dec1977 (220,000km) as of June 2015
Second permanent bike 1989 FJ1200 dyno'd 140RWH, great bike.
Third ride is now the Frankenstein 1981 GPZ1100B1, 1983 fully recon motor fitted LOVE THIS BIKE
Forth my work bike FJ1200 1989 (same type as FJ above)

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07 Nov 2013 06:21 #612303 by GPzEric
Good info turboking -

My wife asked me if I still loved her - I said "Honey, I love you more than new carburetor boots ! "
1982 KZ1100B2 (GPz)
1982 KZ750R1 (GPz)
(2) 1981 KZ550D1 (GPz) 1 mint, 1 under construction
1983 GS1100E

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