KZ750(B1) Starter Clutch Repair

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02 Sep 2012 12:02 - 02 Sep 2012 12:03 #546184 by PaulyWally
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Here is where I am at:

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That large bolt is my makeshift flywheel puller (it's the bike's rear axle). I am under the impression that I am currently at a point in disassembly, that I need to use the flywheel puller.

So I have read 2 different schools of thought on this step:

1) Turn the flywheel puller until it pops out.

2) Hammer on the end of the flywheel puller until it pops out.

I'm not comfortable hammering on the end of the flywheel puller. I also don't have the special "Dynamo Rotor Holder" tool. I tried a strap wrench, and I busted it (although, it was successful in getting the rotor bolt off first).

So... any thoughts on how to get this bad boy off?

Thanks in advance!

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02 Sep 2012 12:47 #546194 by 650ed
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I may be all wrong, but I thought you are supposed to put a ball bearing in the hole before the flywheel puller. Then as the puller is tightened it pushes against the the ball bearing and pulls the flywheel off. I've never done it, but hopefully someone who has will chime in. Ed

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02 Sep 2012 14:13 #546225 by daveo
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The ball bearing method works great, as long as there is enough space for it and engaging a few threads of the bolt.
I put an Electrex rotor on my engine recently, and couldn't use a ball bearing because the center mounting shaft is shorter than OEM, and doesn't provide the space for one. Had to cut some of the thread-end off the rotor bolt on account of the difference in length, as well.
Electrex RO3. Supposedly machined to exact fit tolerances...not. I'm still waiting to hear back from their technical department regarding my installation issue(s).

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02 Sep 2012 15:02 #546235 by PaulyWally
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650ed wrote: I may be all wrong, but I thought you are supposed to put a ball bearing in the hole before the flywheel puller. Then as the puller is tightened it pushes against the the ball bearing and pulls the flywheel off. I've never done it, but hopefully someone who has will chime in. Ed


I'm gathering that I need some type of a "spacer" underneath my "rotor puller"?

I vaguely recall an internet post from someone saying they put a 1/2" socket in there. I'm guessing that's what they were referring to?

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02 Sep 2012 15:13 #546236 by Motor Head
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The ball Bearing allows for less friction between the end of the Bolt (Puller) and the end of the shaft. So less torque is applied for the same pressure. Hopefully saving having to tighten it as tight. Make sure that there is plenty of thread still, where the bolt goes in, whichever method used. Some Anti-Seize is also a good Idea. Once the pressure id there, one good smack with a sizable hammer will take it off.
Does your rear axle have the Nut, or the round end with the hole through it? If the nut, use an Impact wrench. If the round, get a different bolt/ puller as it will be extremely hard to get it tight enough.

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02 Sep 2012 20:08 #546268 by ironslave
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A proper flywheel puller screws on to the flywheel and then has a bolt running through the center. you would screw the bolt in to break the flywheel loose. the ball bearing idea it an excellent one though.

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02 Sep 2012 20:16 - 02 Sep 2012 20:18 #546269 by bountyhunter
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Motor Head wrote: The ball Bearing allows for less friction between the end of the Bolt (Puller) and the end of the shaft. So less torque is applied for the same pressure. Hopefully saving having to tighten it as tight. Make sure that there is plenty of thread still, where the bolt goes in, whichever method used. Some Anti-Seize is also a good Idea. Once the pressure id there, one good smack with a sizable hammer will take it off.
Does your rear axle have the Nut, or the round end with the hole through it? If the nut, use an Impact wrench. If the round, get a different bolt/ puller as it will be extremely hard to get it tight enough.

Mine had a hole on the 79 750 twin. I put a screwdriver through and tapped on it to break the flywheel loose. That sucker was REALLY tight.

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02 Sep 2012 21:52 #546284 by tinlizzie37
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I think if anything between the puller and shaft, might screw up the threads on the shaft. Double nut the one end and use an impact gun or whack it with a hammer. Bob

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03 Sep 2012 00:11 #546302 by Patton
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More info:

Click > www.kzrider.com/forum/2-engine/399151-kz-porn

Good Fortune! :)

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04 Sep 2012 14:27 - 04 Sep 2012 14:31 #546611 by Rainman
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This is about all the rotation it took mine. Notice the rotor anti-rotation device. 1/4" diameter ball bearing used.
Good luck,
Jim

Edit: pictures are out of order, second is first. Rotation is clockwise.

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04 Sep 2012 15:51 - 04 Sep 2012 16:05 #546629 by PaulyWally
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Patton wrote: More info:

Click > www.kzrider.com/forum/2-engine/399151-kz-porn

Good Fortune! :)


Wow! Talk about your epic threads!

After reading that (and other thoughts on this) here's what I've decided to try first:

I don't have any spare ball bearings or a "good way" to hold the dynamo/rotor in place. So, I ordered a flywheel puller from Z1 Enterprises and will hit that with a [strike]torque[/strike] impact wrench once it gets here. With any luck, I won't need any more than that.

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04 Sep 2012 15:57 #546632 by P21
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i hope you mean impact gun (air) and not torque wrench
on a job like that you need air tools son i think that is a taper fit on end of crankshaft

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