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PO is a jerk...camshaft bolt holes stripped...
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02 Sep 2010 07:11 #395574
by RsvBruno
1981 KZ1000K
1977 KZ650C1
1976 KZ750B
1980 KZ440LTD
PO is a jerk...camshaft bolt holes stripped... was created by RsvBruno
Well, here's my rant. If you strip something INSIDE the engine, and its a pretty important part...oh say the bolts that I have to use to hold my camshafts down and tight, and then you bolt the motor back up and say it ran fine last year when I parked it...you are a jerk. Anyways, what I thought may be a simple job, like clean the carbs, check valves etc. has turned out to be much more fun. I have a 1981 KZ1000 LTD that has 2 bolts stripped out on the camshaft brackets (not sure what to call them) this is obviously something I don't want to leave as-is. So could anyone tell me if they have had any luck doing a time-sert or heli-coil in one of these places, or if there is room to drill a tad lower maybe and get a longer bolt? Any help would be appreciated. Been lurking on here far too long so I thought I'd post up and see what you guys come up with. Thanks in advance.
Bruno
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1981 KZ1000K
1977 KZ650C1
1976 KZ750B
1980 KZ440LTD
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02 Sep 2010 07:15 #395575
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'84 GPz900r
'71 CB350
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Replied by 9am53 on topic PO is a jerk...camshaft bolt holes stripped...
When I saw the title of this thread it was obvious what bike you have... this is really common in this bike because the manual has a big error in it and states to tighten those bolts to 12 foot pounds...I stripped 2 in my head last winter. I put helicoils in and have been fine ever since. I will be putting in new cams this winter and was thinking of putting helicoils in the rest of the holes as well for safeties sake. Many people will tell you helicoils suck and to use the time serts...they are likely better but I am happy with the helicoils.
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02 Sep 2010 07:22 #395578
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1981 KZ1000K
1977 KZ650C1
1976 KZ750B
1980 KZ440LTD
Replied by RsvBruno on topic PO is a jerk...camshaft bolt holes stripped...
Do you by chance know what size heli-coil I should be getting? That would help a ton so I can search around here for one. Now I feel a LOT better about this! You may have just added a few years to my life by stopping the pounding and blood pressure spike that stayed from last night! haha.
1981 KZ1000K
1977 KZ650C1
1976 KZ750B
1980 KZ440LTD
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02 Sep 2010 07:25 #395579
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1982 KZ1000LTD K2 Vance & Hines 4-1 ACCEL COILS Added Vetter fairing & Bags. FOX Racing rear Shocks, Braced Swing-arm, Fork Brace, Progressive Fork Springs RT Gold Emulators, APE Valve Springs, 1166 Big Bore kit, RS34's, GPZ cams.
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Replied by Motor Head on topic PO is a jerk...camshaft bolt holes stripped...
Personally I would do the step stud repair. They are available in different sizes, this link has them at the right hand side of the page. Any local machine/ engineering shop should have some.
www.belmetric.com/html/catalog10.htm
www.belmetric.com/html/catalog10.htm
1982 KZ1000LTD K2 Vance & Hines 4-1 ACCEL COILS Added Vetter fairing & Bags. FOX Racing rear Shocks, Braced Swing-arm, Fork Brace, Progressive Fork Springs RT Gold Emulators, APE Valve Springs, 1166 Big Bore kit, RS34's, GPZ cams.
1980 KZ550LTD C1 Stock SOLD Miss it
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02 Sep 2010 07:25 #395580
by otakar
74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
Replied by otakar on topic PO is a jerk...camshaft bolt holes stripped...
They are called "cam bearing caps". You might want to give the PO a little brake. This is a common problem and it is Kawasaki's fault. They have the wrong torque listed in the service manual. many of us have stripped the cap threads in the head. Installing "quick-serts" or "Helicoils" has been covered many-many times on this web sight. so don't feel bad, you are not the only one in this boat. Yes, I have done it also. In the book it states that the torque should be 12 lb/ft when in fact it should be only be 105 oz/in.
74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
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02 Sep 2010 07:32 #395584
by RsvBruno
1981 KZ1000K
1977 KZ650C1
1976 KZ750B
1980 KZ440LTD
Replied by RsvBruno on topic PO is a jerk...camshaft bolt holes stripped...
I'll give him a break for doing it...but not a break for buttoning it up and hoping that the motor doesn't destroy itself for the next person...NOT COOL. But again I feel WAY better about this now and its not like I was going to contact him and yell, I enjoy learning how to fix various problems really, just not a dishonest person. I've read tons of the threads on "how-to's" for these heli coils and such, just thought I'd get opinions and let off some steam. Thanks for helping me with both! Anybody have the size handy?
1981 KZ1000K
1977 KZ650C1
1976 KZ750B
1980 KZ440LTD
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02 Sep 2010 07:35 #395585
by otakar
74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
Replied by otakar on topic PO is a jerk...camshaft bolt holes stripped...
No eBay APP ID and/or Cert ID defined in Kunena configurationThis is a very inexpensive way to fix those.
74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
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02 Sep 2010 07:38 #395586
by RsvBruno
1981 KZ1000K
1977 KZ650C1
1976 KZ750B
1980 KZ440LTD
Replied by RsvBruno on topic PO is a jerk...camshaft bolt holes stripped...
Otakar I think I've seen you in a few of the forums I'm on (I have a few bikes) and you are ALWAYS a life saver. THANKS! :woohoo:
I'll let you guys know how it goes later tonight.
Bruno
I'll let you guys know how it goes later tonight.
Bruno
1981 KZ1000K
1977 KZ650C1
1976 KZ750B
1980 KZ440LTD
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02 Sep 2010 07:50 #395589
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Michael
Victoria, Texas
1982 GPz750
1977 KZ1000A
1978 KZ1000A
1982 GPz1100
1975 Z2A
Replied by Mcdroid on topic PO is a jerk...camshaft bolt holes stripped...
Yep, I have one of those bikes too (the GPz1100 had 8 stripped cam cap holes...the PO never said a word :laugh: ) I used Time-Serts...pricey but they work.
Michael
Victoria, Texas
1982 GPz750
1977 KZ1000A
1978 KZ1000A
1982 GPz1100
1975 Z2A
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02 Sep 2010 07:53 #395591
by RsvBruno
1981 KZ1000K
1977 KZ650C1
1976 KZ750B
1980 KZ440LTD
Replied by RsvBruno on topic PO is a jerk...camshaft bolt holes stripped...
Why the eff can't people just be honest. Oh well. I guess we all learn while doing, and now my 2 stripped cam cap holes make me feel Lucky. What a turn around from this morning eh? Glad I joined this forum! I practically own almost every KZ now...so I thought I should! haha
1981 KZ1000K
1977 KZ650C1
1976 KZ750B
1980 KZ440LTD
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02 Sep 2010 07:53 #395592
by 9am53
'84 GPz900r
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s289.photobucket.com/albums/ll231/9am53/
Replied by 9am53 on topic PO is a jerk...camshaft bolt holes stripped...
those that otto linked are the ones I used.
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02 Sep 2010 08:44 #395599
by otakar
74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
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M6x1.00
74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
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