Need Expertise on Rubber Softeners

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20 Oct 2007 22:03 #177329 by JimatMilkyWay
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Spot wrote:

Thanks for the help everyone! I tried the boiling water. They were soft until they made contact with the carb. The metal cooled them and they stayed in the position they were in. Since I was stretching them, they stayed stretched out.
I'm gonna order new ones, and experiment with these while I'm waiting for them to come in. I'll try vaseline on one, bleach on one, power steering fluid on one, and antifreeze on one. I'll let y'all know what happens to them.

I have been most impressed with Black Magic tire dressing. You should clean the rubber thoroughly before applying. Then clean and reapply next month and again in two months. By then I think you will see much improvement.

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20 Oct 2007 22:25 #177336 by wrenchmonkey
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Hey spot,

When you said 'rubber softener' i ASSumed :whistle: you were trying only to recondition older, brittle, rubber to extend it's service etc. The vaseline ain't gunna do shit for ya if you're actually trying to stretch a rubber coupler to fit over a larger bore of some kind. Don't waste yer time on it man. :dry:

On the other hand, try the spray-on rubbing alcohol thing if you're trying to fit a tight-fitting rubber part over/onto something else. That will help a ton in those situations!

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21 Oct 2007 07:03 - 03 Dec 2008 07:20 #177358 by JMKZHI
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24 Oct 2007 20:05 #178001 by Spot
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Spot wrote:

Looking for rubber softeners, I compiled this list from a google search:

Bleach; Gasoline; Transmission stop leak; Brake fluid; Antifreeze; Rubbing alcohol; Castor Oil; Dioctyl Sebacate (PVC plasticizer); Silicone waterproofing for re-proofing camping tents; Car racing tire conditioner (various brands).

Anyone out there experienced in reconditioning carb inlet ducts?


Okay, here's the results so far: No change from bleach, transmission stop leak, or antifreeze. No change from brake fluid (as per JMKZHI). Racing car tire conditioner: $100.00 per gallon (new inlet ducts: $50.00). Dioctyl Sepacate: $600.00 per gallon. vaseline: no, as per wrenchmonkey. Rubbing alcohol tested sat for slippery, but ancient rubber not flexible enough to expand.

Still to test: power steering fluid, PB Blaster, castor oil, Balistol, Black Magic tire dressing. (And pods, of course, if I start getting brave with the jets!).

You guys will make me an expert in no time!! More info as it comes in.

Post edited by: Spot, at: 2007/10/24 23:07

Good judgment comes from experience, which usually comes from bad judgment. - Will Rogers

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24 Oct 2007 20:19 #178007 by almarconi
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I've had good luck with GM Top End Cleaner. Makes the boots nice and pliable.

1981 KZ550C LTD (SOLD)
1980 GS750L
1982 KZ750N1 Spectre (New Project)

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25 Oct 2007 00:08 #178026 by Dr Zed
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Racing tyre conditioner worked for me, cost about $20.00 (Aust) for 1 litre about three years ago , took two applications over a few days and worked well.
Tony.
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25 Oct 2007 08:12 #178065 by OKC_Kent
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But did they stay soft?

Oklahoma City, OK
78 KZ650 B2 82,000+ miles

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25 Oct 2007 14:12 #178104 by Dr Zed
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Yep, so far so good, every time I take off the carbies I take off the carb boots and soak them in Armorall for a couple of days and use my pods if I need to ride.
The boots remain soft and slip into place easily when I put them back on/into the air filter housing.
Tony
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25 Oct 2007 16:44 #178123 by KaZooCruiser
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I think you have to have an EPA permit for this stuff, but when I used to fix copiers, the rubber fusing roller would get hard from the heat and pressure. This stuff would re-elasticize the material.

Made by Dupont, the product is called "Fedron."

www.teeveesupply.com/product_pages/chemicals/fedron.htm

Anyone with a few extra bucks set aside for experimentation?

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25 Oct 2007 17:23 #178130 by Patton
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KaZooCruiser wrote:

I think you have to have an EPA permit for this stuff, but when I used to fix copiers, the rubber fusing roller would get hard from the heat and pressure. This stuff would re-elasticize the material.

Made by Dupont, the product is called "Fedron."

www.teeveesupply.com/product_pages/chemicals/fedron.htm

Anyone with a few extra bucks set aside for experimentation?


Here's hoping KaZooCruiser didn't sniff too much of that stuff! :cheer:

(Just teasing!) :)

Post edited by: Patton, at: 2007/10/25 20:29

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31 Oct 2007 10:55 #178973 by KaZooCruiser
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Patton wrote:

Here's hoping KaZooCruiser didn't sniff too much of that stuff! :cheer:

(Just teasing!) :)<br><br>Post edited by: Patton, at: 2007/10/25 20:29


ummm, maybe I already did . . ?

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02 Nov 2007 18:28 #179374 by Oldhemi
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Wintergreen oil and water and a boil seems to do the trick for the boys on the hondachopper.com site. Don't know what the amounts are and how long heat it for. Stuff is available at pharmacy's and health food/natural herb stores. I have not tried it.

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