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12 Sep 2017 18:37 #770817 by Oldschoolkz1000
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I was given a 1980 KZ1000, I now have a 1982 KZ1000 LTD, can I mount the engine and wire harness, front forks, brakes from the 1980 to the 1982 LTD? I am thankful for all information.

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12 Sep 2017 20:43 #770818 by KGKZ1K
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Oldschoolkz1000 wrote: I was given a 1980 KZ1000, I now have a 1982 KZ1000 LTD, can I mount the engine and wire harness, front forks, brakes from the 1980 to the 1982 LTD? I am thankful for all information.


Is the 82 LTD whipped?...is the 1980 an LTD...

Anything is possible if you have modest fab skills and access to purchased parts.

Im pretty sure the steering stem is a different diameter between the 82 and 80...there are ways around this.

The motor mounts are different between the two but you can always fab mounts I suppose.

You have any pictures of the two bikes you could post and a better description of the project I'm sure you will get a ton of answers from the collected wisdom around these parts.

1980 kz1000 LTD
1982 Kz1000B
1980 honda cm400
2x 1993 zx7
1991 zx7 project
1978 km100
1979 'zuk PE250
1993 yz125
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13 Sep 2017 16:52 #770853 by Oldschoolkz1000
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Yes they are both LTD. I want to put the engine from the 1982 onto the 1980. The 1980 is lowered, stretched, 1480 kit, N.O.S. air shifter. I like the look but don't need a that engine for the street. The 1982 Engine is stock.
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13 Sep 2017 17:07 #770857 by SWest
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One looks like a early model. Far from the same.
Steve

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13 Sep 2017 17:18 - 13 Sep 2017 17:22 #770858 by KGKZ1K
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You have some awesome friends if someone gave you that 80!
Love the '82....looks just like mine!

Gonna be some work to swap them...why not just enjoy each one as they are? They are both awesome looking rides with a clearly different purpose.

1980 kz1000 LTD
1982 Kz1000B
1980 honda cm400
2x 1993 zx7
1991 zx7 project
1978 km100
1979 'zuk PE250
1993 yz125
....all kinds of other cool shit
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13 Sep 2017 18:07 #770859 by Oldschoolkz1000
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The 80 was given to me because my friend passed away and the family wanted me to have the bike. He was like my brother from an other mother. I want to honor his memory and put the bike back on the road. It sat untouched for 11 years before the family contacted me. Anyway can I use the swing arm and tank from the 80 at least to give it the look.

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13 Sep 2017 18:22 #770862 by ajsfirehawk
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Answers aren't going to be easy or accurate because so much customization has been done to the drag bike. It looks like it has a Z1R tank on it. As best as I can tell it is a hard tail, the back end has been stretched so even if you can put the 82 swing on it, there doesn't appear to be anyplace to mount the shocks. The stock swingarm is going to be abut a foot shorter than the current one. So between the hardtail, lack of shock mounts and a frame longer than the wheels you are going to have to do some fabrication. Is that in your wheelhouse?

79 KZ650 SR
80 KZ1000 Z1 Classic
83 KZ1100 LTD
Z900RS
23 Mach 1

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13 Sep 2017 19:11 #770865 by Oldschoolkz1000
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I was thinking of putting the drag swing arm, tank and wheels onto the 82. I know before I said I wanted to mount the parts onto the 80. But I was informed that the engine mounts are different so I was thinking about stretching the 82. I like the hard tail look better with some rear frame modifications.

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13 Sep 2017 20:10 #770870 by SWest
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Check the engine numbers. I think you'll find it's a Z1 or KZ 900. The carbs look like Z1. The build may be 1980.
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14 Sep 2017 20:03 #770930 by DOHC
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Oldschoolkz1000 wrote: The 80 was given to me because my friend passed away and the family wanted me to have the bike. He was like my brother from an other mother. I want to honor his memory and put the bike back on the road. It sat untouched for 11 years before the family contacted me. Anyway can I use the swing arm and tank from the 80 at least to give it the look.


The '82 looks to be in nice original condition. Right now you have two complete bikes. Once you start swapping parts and chopping things up you'll have one franken-bike and a mound of parts, or two mounds of parts if you never finish. All the value will be gone from the '82, and the spirit of your friend's bike will be somewhere in the pile of parts.

There is enough value in the '82 LTD that if you sold it that should cover the cost of restoring the '80. No reason to throw it away.

I say keep your friends bike as intact as possible. Just take enough of the race out to make it safe and reliable and turn it into a cool cruiser. It won't ever corner great with that swingarm, but you already signed up for that since you plan to keep it in either case.

The biggest thing is to make the engine reliable for the street. I say Ebay a stock cylinder block with a good set of stock pistons and add new gaskets and rings. You should be able to keep every other part of the engine. If the head has a lot of work it may not be ideal, but close enough. This would be maybe $300 to $500?

Or get a stock cylinder block and a new 1075cc, 10.x:1 set of pistons (Wiseco, MTC). Now you have a better than stock engine that's happy on the street. Maybe $1000?

Then figure out where all of your fork travel went and put it back, and get longer struts or real shocks to get more ground clearance. Hagon shocks are about $250 and people say good things about them.

That race pipe is going to drag and it needs a baffle. Maybe get a Delkevic, or Ebay a cheap used pipe and swap with the V&H pipe on the '82. Maybe $100 to $300?

Then disable the nitrous, clean it up, and ride. It looks like all of the rest of pieces are there.

Of course, I can't see if it has a charging system. That could be complicated. :)

'78 Z1-R in blue , '78 Z1-R in black, '78 Z1-R in pieces
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16 Sep 2017 18:07 #771061 by Oldschoolkz1000
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Thank you all for your help, and the information provided. It seems that it will be a big job to combine these two bikes. I have the skill to do it but I will go with DOHC advise. Although that wasn't the information I wanted to hear, it was the right answer I was hoping not to hear. I do thank you (DOHC) for giving it to me straight. 1982 KZ1000 LTD, lots of chrome, runs great, for sale $3000. 203-858-7376. I will keep everyone posted on the project of the 1980.

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