900/1000 dogs compared to 650/750?

larrycavan wrote:

Vorbeck wrote:

I went to an old bike dealership here in Tennessee and talked to two old bike techs that are semi retired. I went in to show them my alternator(650c1) and ask them how to wire it. We got to talking about my KZ1000B3 I rode in on. They said the 900/1000s were dogs compared to the 650/750s. I will agree my 650 is as fast as my 1000 but the 1000 has a full fairing and bags and trunk. TJ the younger one(about 45-50) said his 750 was faster than the drag bike the other tech had built and the second man agreed. I was going to build my 650 as a cafe racer but might drop the idea of mildly tuning it. They said it was cheaper to build a screaming 810 than to mess with welding the crank and such in a 900/1000. Any one have info on dollars per horse power?

And the wind blew and the shit flew and I could't see for a day or two :woohoo:





did ya write that one urself Larry ???? :ohmy:
well u do excellent head work anyway :woohoo:

I have

kz1000b3, it even had a cigar ligter on it. daily rider for hmmm 20 years rode it in high school (dads old bike but i rode it more he got a harley sportser to get a lighter bike for just cruising) need to restore it bad.

kz650c1 had restored but a lady hit me and then it burned, fixing now ( wife is pissed, it is in the kitchen)

Gn125Z for around hixson and redbank

ok not running or parts

kz1000j missing pieces
gs550
gs550
kz1000j WRECKED

and i have parts out the butt all ready.

What they were telling me was to restore/ride the 1000b3 and since i was going to fix my 650c1 any way it would be cheaper to but a screaming 650 than to fool with a 1000 or even a 1000 in a 650 frame. I have several complete 650/750 engine also ready. I have a 700 shaft I think but it was hit in the rear and most likely not good. I have a motorcycle junk yard I am helping to clean up also that I am picking thur. Jamups said it was not worth messing with the old bikes (1000s, i mean building a screamer) and if i needed an engine just go get a complete one from Willie's and ride it until it dies and then get another one.

P.O. Box 10
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Camp Hill, AL 36850Toll Free: 800-334-4045
Fax: 256-896-4338
Email: willie@williescycle.com

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Vorbeck wrote:

sorry it took a day to get it on here hocbj23.

Thanks. I know Jamups and the scooter store.Havent heard from Griffiths in a long time-thought they were out of business.Never been to rumors,but know where it is.Another place or two for u to visit--Rose Kawisaki down on Rossville Blvd and R/T Cycle further down the Blvd. R/T has a whole big-ass building FULL of vintage iron--nostalgia all over the place.My bud Jerry (Batman) at That Motorcyle Shop is a good wrench and a world of knowledge about bikes as well.Hwy 58 area.Rides an old Goldwing with his Boston bulldog in the passenger seat.bj

Holly crap... :ohmy:

So you guys are saying that instead of modding my 900, all I had to do was get a KZ650 with BS34 carbs and it would womp my build.... Damn it all to hell...


Plumy, Larry... You assholes for not informing me of this... and talking me into the way I went... $$$$

I hate both of you..... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

larrycavan wrote:

Vorbeck wrote:

I went to an old bike dealership here in Tennessee and talked to two old bike techs that are semi retired. I went in to show them my alternator(650c1) and ask them how to wire it. We got to talking about my KZ1000B3 I rode in on. They said the 900/1000s were dogs compared to the 650/750s. I will agree my 650 is as fast as my 1000 but the 1000 has a full fairing and bags and trunk. TJ the younger one(about 45-50) said his 750 was faster than the drag bike the other tech had built and the second man agreed. I was going to build my 650 as a cafe racer but might drop the idea of mildly tuning it. They said it was cheaper to build a screaming 810 than to mess with welding the crank and such in a 900/1000. Any one have info on dollars per horse power?

And the wind blew and the shit flew and I could't see for a day or two :woohoo:

I've ridden all of them. All nice bikes. But those woodchucks were laying it on pretty thick .....

HEY, YOU WOODCHUCKS! STOP CHUCKING MY WOOD!

Old Man Rock wrote:

Holly crap... :ohmy:

So you guys are saying that instead of modding my 900, all I had to do was get a KZ650 with BS34 carbs and it would womp my build.... Damn it all to hell...


Plumy, Larry... You assholes for not informing me of this... and talking me into the way I went... $$$$

I hate both of you..... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I say....your welcome son :woohoo:

andy9802gt wrote:

larrycavan wrote:

Vorbeck wrote:

I went to an old bike dealership here in Tennessee and talked to two old bike techs that are semi retired. I went in to show them my alternator(650c1) and ask them how to wire it. We got to talking about my KZ1000B3 I rode in on. They said the 900/1000s were dogs compared to the 650/750s. I will agree my 650 is as fast as my 1000 but the 1000 has a full fairing and bags and trunk. TJ the younger one(about 45-50) said his 750 was faster than the drag bike the other tech had built and the second man agreed. I was going to build my 650 as a cafe racer but might drop the idea of mildly tuning it. They said it was cheaper to build a screaming 810 than to mess with welding the crank and such in a 900/1000. Any one have info on dollars per horse power?

And the wind blew and the shit flew and I could't see for a day or two :woohoo:

I've ridden all of them. All nice bikes. But those woodchucks were laying it on pretty thick .....

HEY, YOU WOODCHUCKS! STOP CHUCKING MY WOOD!

:woohoo:

youtube.com/watch?v=DjGwusHrOtk

:blink:

one of em should be holding the Vaseline :woohoo:

Does the crank need to be welded? Yes or no? As it is I will have to send what ever I build to Pitstop to have it bored as no one here will stand behind any thing less than a 3in bore.

Kz900/1000 need the frames braced, different swing arm for a wider tire(new bikes have traction control). The 650/750 can have a 6 speed just by swapping parts from a KZ550/zx600(kz650info). The 650 is lighter. No one here will weld a crank saying the plain bearing engines are stronger and there is no money in it. I will have to send that out also. You have to pull the engine out to service any thing if you place a 1000 in a 650 frame.

theres plenty of unbraced kz 900/1000 frames out there,the swingarm swap is a good idea on any 70s motorcycle.
if the crank is straight,its not very hard to check welding it is not rocket science to do.
never had a spun bearing on 900/1000
check the price of machining a crank,new bearings,resizing both ends of stock rods,new rod bolts i can kind of see why they say theres no money in welding a crank for $75.00! :laugh:

oh yeah old bikes have traction control also it all comes down to the connection speed between your ass and the throttle,thats why i switched to high speed internet!:laugh:
the old dial up was getting me into too much trouble! :S :woohoo: