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05 May 2009 06:39 #288077 by Tyler
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One thing I noticed is that both bikes are in Wisconsin, and could be Canadian? Maybe that explains the speedo's?

The seller of the first bike already discreited the milage. He said the motor and carbs were gone through. Why would you "go through" the motor on a z900 with less than 10K on it? That dosen't make sense.:unsure: I wouldn't buy a any bike on ebay ( unless ti was dirt cheap) without looking at it in person.

If I knew what I was doing all the time life wouldn't be any fun.

'80 KZ650 E 700cc, dyna ignition and coils, frame up restoration, daily driver
'81 KZ1300 A3 full restoration, custom big bore pistons, 1400cc 6 cylinder super bike
"77 KZ650 B1 - Barn Find, work in progeress
"74 Yamaha DT 400 Enduro

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05 May 2009 07:20 #288091 by RonKZ650
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I call the speedo as wrong on both of them.

321,000 miles on KZ's that I can remember. Not going to see any more.

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05 May 2009 07:40 #288098 by The Gringo
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RonKZ650 wrote:

I call the speedo as wrong on both of them.


By God Ron you are correct I just looked at a pic of the speedo from the 76 KZ900 I sold last year and it does not have any blue KPH lettering on it at all. Here is the pic from the one I sold.

Andy
Akron, Ohio
80 Z-1 Classic-Sold
84 GPZ1100
79 KZ 1000 LTD
78 KZ 1000 A2
77 KZ 1000 LTD-Sold
76 KZ 900 The definition of a barn find
76 KZ 900-Sold gone to Denmark
KZ 750 times 3, KZ 650 times 8 Sold 1 down to 7
KZ 550 times 2 80 440LTD-Sold
81 CSR 305-Sold 81 Yamaha XS650 Special
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05 May 2009 07:42 #288100 by The Gringo
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Compared to the second one for sale on ebay.

Andy
Akron, Ohio
80 Z-1 Classic-Sold
84 GPZ1100
79 KZ 1000 LTD
78 KZ 1000 A2
77 KZ 1000 LTD-Sold
76 KZ 900 The definition of a barn find
76 KZ 900-Sold gone to Denmark
KZ 750 times 3, KZ 650 times 8 Sold 1 down to 7
KZ 550 times 2 80 440LTD-Sold
81 CSR 305-Sold 81 Yamaha XS650 Special
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05 May 2009 07:43 - 05 May 2009 07:46 #288101 by PLUMMEN
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ltd/jardine exhuast on 1st bike with cherry bombs stuffed in the ends! :laugh:rototiller bars probably came from same ltd as exhuast

Still recovering,some days are better than others.
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05 May 2009 07:44 - 05 May 2009 07:47 #288102 by Russ Jackson
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RonKZ650 wrote:

I call the speedo as wrong on both of them.


You might be right. But being so close to Canada maybe they put the KM's per hour along. Especially on the 1977 KZ. The guy selling it knows KZ's because he sells polished parts all the time. That second bike is very nice! If he parted it together he went to alot of work to do it. Also if it was parted he would have changed the rear fender and the chrome throttle chase from the 6 out of 10 to a better one. Even the paint on the engine, start, and light control is mint. It still has the rubber type cover on the brake handle....Russ

On Bike #2 it redlines at 8500 not 9000. Maybe it is a fake also?

1976 KZ 900 B1 29 smoothbores, Kerker, Lester Mags
2008 Kawasaki Concours 14 abs
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05 May 2009 07:47 #288104 by Mcdroid
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This 76 KZ900 has a 140mph speedo with the blue kph scale under the mph - this isn't correct is it? I didn't think they added the kph until years later. The seller claims the mileage to be original too...:dry:

cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Kawasaki-KZ-900-...C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318


Everything appears suspicious about this bike...the seller may not know much about KZ's...paint is wrong, instruments wrong, pipes wrong...I'm smelling rebuild after accident, unknown mileage.

Michael
Victoria, Texas

1982 GPz750
1977 KZ1000A
1978 KZ1000A
1982 GPz1100
1975 Z2A

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05 May 2009 07:54 #288106 by EricHa
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Yep, the first bike's paint is not correct and the striping isn't even close. Exhaust, seat, handlebars, and speedo are wrong. Decent bike, just not that original. The second bike is really nice. The kph on the speedo could be a Canadian thing, not sure. The tach on KZ900's had a 9000rpm redline, but I've read that the 1977 KZ900A5's were built from leftover parts as the KZ1000 was released. Maybe a KZ1000 tach got installed at the factory? FWIW, my A5 has a 9000rpm tach.

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1975 Honda CB550K
1996 Ducati 900SS CR

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05 May 2009 08:05 #288113 by RonKZ650
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The second one is extremely nice, but for sure in 1976-77 they did not use that speedo. Still nice though. Also I never can remember the correct redline on the KZ1000 and 900. Was it the 900 had the 9000rpm, and the 1000 had the 8500? In gringos picture of his 76 it has a 9000RPM redline, where the nice 2nd KZ900 for sale has the 8500? I'm comfusing myself. It looks to me like 1979 KZ1000 speedo and tach on the 2nd one there.

321,000 miles on KZ's that I can remember. Not going to see any more.

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05 May 2009 08:27 #288118 by EricHa
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Yes, 900 was 9000rpm, 1000 was 8500rpm.

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05 May 2009 08:31 #288119 by The Gringo
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Russ Jackson wrote:

RonKZ650 wrote:

I call the speedo as wrong on both of them.


You might be right. But being so close to Canada maybe they put the KM's per hour along. Especially on the 1977 KZ. The guy selling it knows KZ's because he sells polished parts all the time. That second bike is very nice! If he parted it together he went to alot of work to do it. Also if it was parted he would have changed the rear fender and the chrome throttle chase from the 6 out of 10 to a better one. Even the paint on the engine, start, and light control is mint. It still has the rubber type cover on the brake handle....Russ

On Bike #2 it redlines at 8500 not 9000. Maybe it is a fake also?


The second bike is very nice but as Ron called it the speedo is not correct for that year. Since Kawasaki used different distributors for Canada and the US that pretty much blows the theory that since Wi. is close to Canada it may be a Canadian thing out of the water. If it was a Canadian bike it would have come with a KPH only speedo from what I can remember. I just looked at the speedo on my 77 1000 LTD and it looks just like the speedo on the 76 900 I posted. The 78 KZ1000's looked the same also. So I'm thinking that this speedo is off a 79 LTD 1000 since it reads to 160 but has the KPH scale as well. IIRC the 79 MKII used a different speedo setup. I believe in 1980 they went to an 85 MPH speedo at least that is what my G-1 has. So I'm going to say that speedo is from a 79 LTD 1000.

Andy
Akron, Ohio
80 Z-1 Classic-Sold
84 GPZ1100
79 KZ 1000 LTD
78 KZ 1000 A2
77 KZ 1000 LTD-Sold
76 KZ 900 The definition of a barn find
76 KZ 900-Sold gone to Denmark
KZ 750 times 3, KZ 650 times 8 Sold 1 down to 7
KZ 550 times 2 80 440LTD-Sold
81 CSR 305-Sold 81 Yamaha XS650 Special

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05 May 2009 08:31 - 05 May 2009 08:34 #288120 by RonKZ650
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Also the way Kawasaki works their parts, superceded parts are commonly listed as the correct part used in many cases and the original part number is not even mentioned. You about need the original parts fiche for a specific model to determine what is correct. Case in point here.
1979 KZ1000 used a 25006-1031 speedo. (mph+kph)
1977-78 KZ1000 used a 25006-048 speedo. (mph only)
1976-77 KZ900 used the same 25006-048 (mph only)

Somewhere along the road many moons ago Kawasaki discontinued 25006-048 and superceded to 25006-1031 so anyone that bought a new speedo for a KZ900 or 1000 from then on could only get the 1979 piece. Later Kawasaki don't make any of these but they still list the superceded number. So you go to Kawasaki and look up the speedo for a 1976 KZ900 and it will list the 25006-1031, same as a 1979 KZ1000. Not what they used originally and can throw a curve ball into correct parts being used. Heres the 25006-1031 of a 79 KZ1000MKII

321,000 miles on KZ's that I can remember. Not going to see any more.
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