Thinking about building a trike

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03 Jul 2016 10:51 #733706 by bluej58
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That is going to look very cool B)

So are you going to stay with the original wheel base?
I think that will help keeping the original geometry as far as the ride goes.

I do like the way it looks stretched out :evil: but I think it would need to be raked and longer tubes and who knows how it would handle then.

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03 Jul 2016 16:49 - 03 Jul 2016 21:29 #733730 by larriken
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KZQ wrote: I'm sure it's not going to be fast, not with all the extra weight. I'd read somewhere that the 750 twins do well when mated to a sidecar because of the good low end torque.
So here I go.
Bill


Love what you are up to on this build! Here is a Z750 that a local bike shop I used to live near used to do all their bike pick ups with. I hadn't seen it in years and then it reappeared in the carpark at a bike show. They used to load up with rider, side chair, and a big cc bike and haul off no worries.



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03 Jul 2016 21:36 - 03 Jul 2016 21:36 #733745 by KZQ
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bluej58 wrote: That is going to look very cool B)

So are you going to stay with the original wheel base?
I think that will help keeping the original geometry as far as the ride goes.

I do like the way it looks stretched out :evil: but I think it would need to be raked and longer tubes and who knows how it would handle then.


I'm going to keep it as close to the original wheelbase as I can. Lacking a reverse it's already going to be a bearcat to turn around. If I let it get too long I'll need a whole parking lot to get it maneuvered around.

I laid out the cuts on the swing arms and drew the spreaders with my CAD program. I've got to go to Boston next week but not before I send the drawings off to the lazer cutter. Hopefully they'll be done when I return home.
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05 Jul 2016 09:20 #733964 by 531blackbanshee
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nice to see some progress bill!
keep us posted,

leon

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16 Jul 2016 08:33 #735118 by KZQ
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Finally got some time to get back on the trike.
Here I'm fitting up the dogbones to the swing arm. I'm mocking it up backwards just to use the pinch blocks for alignment.

I'll have it all welded up later today.






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16 Jul 2016 08:38 #735120 by SWest
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Looks strong enough to me. Is that a differential rear end? B)
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16 Jul 2016 09:26 - 16 Jul 2016 09:28 #735128 by KZQ
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Hi Steve,
It's gonna need some bracing and I've got to weld in the bottoms of the loops. You can see the notches below the swing arms. Yes it's a chain drive differential.

Here's a question: After the swing arm is all welded up. Does anybody see anything wrong with just welding two of the pinch blocks to the axle tubes?
Others who have used these axles have added bolt on spacers to keep the differential correctly aligned/centered and also to account to the twisting forces that result from accelerating and braking.
This axle uses greased bearings instead of gear lube so the axle tubes are not full of liquid.
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16 Jul 2016 11:59 #735152 by SWest
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Distortion is the only thing I can think of. I had a small one bolted to a 350 Honda frame. The PO used it on a small dirt bike. He welded a cage around it to keep it from flexing in the middle. It worked great.
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18 Jul 2016 13:10 #735345 by 531blackbanshee
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nice work.
if you are talking about welding say the inside pinch blocks to the tube so they stay put.
i don't see a problem with it.


leon

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1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!

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21 Jul 2016 15:24 #735764 by KZQ
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I'm getting closer. Next step is to weld on some connections or tabs for the lower ends of the shocks.










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22 Jul 2016 05:41 #735815 by 531blackbanshee
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nice!
i like the proportions :evil:

how wide is it outside to outside ?
leon

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1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!

billybiltit.blogspot.com/

www.kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/325862-triple-tree-custom-work

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27 Jul 2016 21:01 - 27 Jul 2016 21:01 #736451 by KZQ
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Hi Leon,
Outside of tire to outside of tire is 50".

I took the axle apart enough to relocate the brake calipers so that the bleeds are at the top. I also added the lower shock mounts so the bike stands on it's own. Next step is to purchase a 530 chain that's 144 links long. I'm thinking that it'll end up being 132 links once I've got the axle adjusted and tightened up. After that I've got to plumb the rear brakes which will be a combination of flaired 1/8" steel and some short braided lines to allow the axle to be moved forward and aft to adjust the chain.
Here's what it looks like presently:







What do you think?
Bill

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1968 BSA 441 Shooting Star, 1970 BSA 650 Lightning, 1974 W3, 1976 KZ900, 1979 KZ750 Twin, 1979 KZ750 Twin Trike, 1981 KZ1300, 1982 KZ1100 Spectre, 2000 Valkyrie, 2009 Yamaha Roadliner S. 1983 GL 1100
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