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29 May 2011 10:44 #454142 by mark1122
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the bike is looking KILLER.
the only part that doesnt fit, is the tank being high at the front. the lines just dont match.
not trying to be a wise ass, just something that stands out, to me.
she's going to be a beauty.

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29 May 2011 10:57 #454145 by royalratch
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At the moment I just raised the front which is why it looks tilted at a weird angle. When I get it is raised at an even level it will work out. I want that hi tank look. Like so...

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29 May 2011 11:10 #454149 by 650ed
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It's your bike so put the tank where you like it. However, I think it looks much better in the lower position. That high tank looks like it was added as an afterthought rather than part of a homogeneous design. Not to mention - why raise the center of gravity (gas is heavy) if you're interested in a good handling bike? :blink:

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29 May 2011 11:46 - 29 May 2011 11:48 #454158 by mark1122
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royalratch wrote: At the moment I just raised the front which is why it looks tilted at a weird angle. When I get it is raised at an even level it will work out. I want that hi tank look. Like so...


Good call. that looks better when its level. if u follow the same line with the seat the line will flow nice. B)
that reminds me of a Roland Sands bike. very nice.

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29 May 2011 13:13 - 29 May 2011 13:21 #454175 by royalratch
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650ed wrote: It's your bike so put the tank where you like it. However, I think it looks much better in the lower position. That high tank looks like it was added as an afterthought rather than part of a homogeneous design. Not to mention - why raise the center of gravity (gas is heavy) if you're interested in a good handling bike? :blink:


It's only being raised by an inch. Besides, I may just raise the roof of the tank and keep all else as stock. As with all things, a balance between looks, handling and comfort is the goal - in that order lol.

I photoshopped this pic to correct the tank angle and show more accurately what it will end up like.

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31 May 2011 09:33 #454474 by 531blackbanshee
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royalratch wrote:

650ed wrote: It's your bike so put the tank where you like it. However, I think it looks much better in the lower position. That high tank looks like it was added as an afterthought rather than part of a homogeneous design. Not to mention - why raise the center of gravity (gas is heavy) if you're interested in a good handling bike? :blink:


It's only being raised by an inch. Besides, I may just raise the roof of the tank and keep all else as stock. As with all things, a balance between looks, handling and comfort is the goal - in that order lol.

I photoshopped this pic to correct the tank angle and show more accurately what it will end up like.


this pic reminds me of an aggressive lil bull standing there waiting to charge something.i think it gets the look like you want.

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28 Aug 2011 14:48 #472335 by royalratch
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Not much actual progress but thought I'd post some pics of a recent parts fest that I scored on a trip to the US, so it feels like I'm making some progress.

First off, all the engine electronics bits are present so I can now make my loom from scratch.


Dyna-S Ignition.




Dyna Coils (Green).




New ElectroSport regulator and stator, more output / efficient than the old stuff and more reliable too.





Brand new original Spark advancer - chuffed.




Some ultra-pimp HT leads that but I want to terminate them in the classic NGK socket and not sure I can - plus they make be too a little short. Not cheap either.




And a really nice 750 barrel - better than what I had planned.




MotoGadget M-Unit to control it all, along with keyless ignition lock. I can't recommend MotoGadget stuff enough it's very hi-quality stuff.





The only switchgear up front is this for Horn and Hi-Beam - no clocks.




Got a nice small headlamp - good quality with damped mounts and wide grommeted opening. Will be painted black.




Custom 36T Rear Sprocket - am, going 520 on the chain.




Selection of test fit 15T and 16T countershafts sprockets. The one that was on the engine is a 17T but stock was 13T/14T?
I need to run at least a 15T and possibly a 16T to get close to normal drive with the 36T rear.




And some quick tests to check chain clearance. Someone mentioned larger sprockets fouling something - did they mean the the guard strip or the actual outer casing?




Main worry is if it will clear the swingarm pivot area. Perhaps a nylon roller plate or something?




Looks like a lot od space but with the swinger moving up and down too...?



Looks straight but how to know for sure...?





So that's where I am. Swingarm and frame back to welder tp get that sorted and some small bits and pieces CNC machined and then it's ready when the engine is. please weigh in if you spot any potential issues as I'm basically winging it!

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29 Aug 2011 03:26 #472480 by mtbspeedfreak
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Great work! This will be a phenomenal bike!

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29 Aug 2011 13:52 #472534 by porchev914
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I love the look of the gold Talon hubs and black excel wheels.... if I could get Talon to make a hub for a single sided swingarm, I'd switch to spoke wheels :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

Regarding your chain alignment; Yes, when you pull a string from sprocket to sprocket, it will look straight. What you'll want to do is get a straight edge on the face of the sprockets, and make sure the two line up. I used a line laser lined up on my rear sprocket to measure the offset needed for the front, but you could do the same to see of your sprockets indeed line up. Excellent work so far, I like the look you're going for B)
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29 Aug 2011 14:23 #472552 by mtbspeedfreak
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porchev914 wrote: I love the look of the gold Talon hubs and black excel wheels.... if I could get Talon to make a hub for a single sided swingarm, I'd switch to spoke wheels :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

Regarding your chain alignment; Yes, when you pull a string from sprocket to sprocket, it will look straight. What you'll want to do is get a straight edge on the face of the sprockets, and make sure the two line up. I used a line laser lined up on my rear sprocket to measure the offset needed for the front, but you could do the same to see of your sprockets indeed line up. Excellent work so far, I like the look you're going for B)
Adam


Oh a laser for alignment, never thought of that! I like it!

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31 Aug 2011 04:38 #473163 by ragnarok
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Wow... that's all i can say.. wow.

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31 Aug 2011 08:56 - 31 Aug 2011 08:57 #473192 by mark1122
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Lasers are cool, but i think a simple straight edge is easier to work with and to get a measurement from.
Make sure the wheel axle is parallel to the swing arm pivot axle first.

76 KZ, frame gusset work,1200CC.Ported by Larry Cavanaugh, 1.5mm.over intakes, Carron Pipe, ZRX12 rear end, and seat,96zx9 front end.
01 CBR600F4i Track bike.
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