My '79 MKII project

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14 Jul 2010 17:32 #382681 by trianglelaguna
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i hope you got it right...the 79 has an electric ignition...imo

1976 KZ900
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2007 FZ1000
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14 Jul 2010 17:47 #382683 by Lazyman06
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does it? is there a way to tell from the outside? if it helps there is a wire coming out of the points cover. Also if it's electronic ignition than why does it show a conversion kit and points on Z1E for my model? Not being snippy just curious. ;)

1979 KZ1000 MK II frame
1980 KZ1000 C3 police engine

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14 Jul 2010 19:33 - 14 Jul 2010 19:35 #382722 by otakar
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Yes it has IC ignition with low resistance coils and a ballast resistor. You can junk the ballast resistor and replace the coils with any good aftermarket 3 Ohm hi performance coils The Accell or Dyna Green coils are good coils.
www.accel-motorcycle.com/ProductDetails....ion=1&minselection=5

74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
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14 Jul 2010 20:31 #382750 by Lazyman06
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IC ignition? please mind my ignorance but i'm not to keen on some of this stuff

1979 KZ1000 MK II frame
1980 KZ1000 C3 police engine

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15 Jul 2010 05:26 #382803 by otakar
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There are no points on this bike. There is a pair of magnetic pulsing coils under the points cover and an electronic ignition (IC)under your right side cover. It is shown on page 249 of your Kawasaki OE manual. It is also shown in the schematic diagram on page 275.

74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000

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15 Jul 2010 05:27 - 15 Jul 2010 05:44 #382804 by Lazyman06
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Well just went and actually looked at the ignition system and it is electric ignition. has the IC ignitor and underneath the points cover is just 2 little blocks with wires coming from them, no points, no condensers. I'm gonna call Z1E and see if they take them off my order

(EDIT)ECHO..ECho..echo ;) I didn't even notice you replied otakar then why does Z1E show Electric ign. kits and points and condensers for my bike?

1979 KZ1000 MK II frame
1980 KZ1000 C3 police engine
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15 Jul 2010 08:20 #382829 by trianglelaguna
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i'm sure Z1-Ent. will work with you on the order or return,credit ect...good people...also the good news is that once set up right...the electronic ignitionis a no maintenance set up...so even though you hit a bump on the ordering deal,the end result is that you have the better ignition now either way!...imo

why they list it is a resonable question and would be interesting to see.....

there were different kz1000 in 1979 and there is talk that some models(not the MKII A3) were using parts from the older kz designs mixed with parts from the newer MKII series of kz1000......imo

those pipes will clean up with a bit of chrome cleaner and repeated shine jobs...some stuff can be brought back to look darn good even if it does have some dings and such....

keep moving ...your doing great!!!!!

1976 KZ900
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2004 ninja 250R for wife

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15 Jul 2010 15:26 - 15 Jul 2010 15:31 #382893 by Lazyman06
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They were nothing but helpful. I talked to a guy named Chris in sales and he had it straight away in less than 5 minutes. In fact I got my UPS tracking number for my stuff like 20 minutes ago so they're on there way as we speak...or type..whichever. :)I asked Chris why it showed the points if it was electric ignition and he said that you could go back to points if you wanted to.

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1980 KZ1000 C3 police engine
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15 Jul 2010 15:54 #382896 by trianglelaguna
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awesome...


they ship fast too...usually before i'm ready to install em....

ask him if we can go back to bedwetting and training wheels if we want.....

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15 Jul 2010 16:21 #382901 by otakar
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trianglelaguna wrote:

awesome...


they ship fast too...usually before i'm ready to install em....

ask him if we can go back to bedwetting and training wheels if we want.....

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000

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15 Jul 2010 17:20 #382912 by Lazyman06
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I can understand wanting to go back to points. As with anything computer or electronically controlled if it malfunctions anything could go wrong. If it was a points system you can track it down fairly quickly.

1979 KZ1000 MK II frame
1980 KZ1000 C3 police engine

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15 Jul 2010 17:25 #382916 by MFolks
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Ohm Checking Pickup(Pulsing) Coils

The pickup coils on the Kawasaki’s with the factory supplied electronic ignition can sometimes fail or become intermittent due to heat and vibration.

1.Trace back from where the pick up coils are mounted,(under a right side CD sized cover) locate and disconnect a small 4 pin connector. Using a multi-meter set on OHMS and range of X 100 check between the BLUE and BLACK wires(#1 and #4 sparkplug wires) for between 360- 540 OHMS.

2.For #2 and #3 sparkplugs the wire colors will be YELLOW and RED, again 360-540 OHMS.

3.If the pickup coils are suspect of failing due to heat, they can be stressed using a hair dryer without the need of the engine running.

4.A replacement set of pickup coils might be obtained from a dealer who serviced the police Kawasaki’s.

5. If replacement pickup coils are not available, your next choice would be to order a Dyna “S” electronic ignition system from www.z1enterprises.com It replaces the IC igniter with a smaller module located where the mechanical ignition advancer was mounted.

6. Checking with Kawasaki.com website has determined that the Pick up(pulsing) coils are available . The pulsing coil # is 59026-1133 and replaces the older # 1002, 1012 which were used from the MKII motors until the 2005 P24.

7.Check the small 4 pin connector that the pickup coils connect to for corrosion/loose pins too.




Ignition Coil Primary And Secondary Wiring

Ignition coils on the 80’s Kz1000,Kz1100’s and Gpz1100’s are wired the same, that is as you sit on the bike, the LEFT ignition coil primary(small wires) are two wires, RED and BLACK. The secondary (or sparkplug wires) go to #1 and #4 sparkplugs.

The cylinders are numbered left to right as you sit on the seat; #1,#2,#3, and #4.

For the RIGHT ignition coil, the primary wires, again are two wires, RED and GREEN, with the secondary going to #2 and #3.

The RED wire gets it’s voltage from the run/stop switch on the right handlebar switch pod.

The BLACK and GREEN wires connect to the IC Igniter(if the bike has the Kawasaki supplied electronic ignition) it actually gives the coils their grounds to fire the sparkplugs.

Primary(small wires) side of the coils will read between 1.8 to 3.0 ohms.

Secondary(sparkplug wire ports)side of the coil will read between 10.4K to 15.6K ohms.

Keep in mind that the smaller 4’s (650 & 750) may have the wiring reversed, that is the RIGHT coil primary will be two wires, RED and BLACK with the secondary(sparkplugs) going to #1 and #4.

The LEFT coils primary wiring would be again two wires, RED and GREEN, with the secondary(sparkplugs) going to #2 and #3.

These engines have what is known as a “Wasted Spark” that is, a sparkplug will fire during an exhaust stroke. It does no damage and many other motorcycle engines have this design.

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