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03 Dec 2010 08:09 #415157 by porchev914
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OK, I have a simple question for the more experienced welders (Leon, RSslingshot, anyone else):
Would it be a good idea to go over all my mig welds with a tig torch and some filler rod? More to the point, I don't want to completely grind down and smooth every weld, I would be happy to have a half decent tig welded joint to paint over. Will this cause any trouble with the previously mig welded joint?

FRANKEN Z!
1978 KZ1000 A2A with 08'Speed Triple SSSA and '06 GSXR1000 front end

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03 Dec 2010 09:15 #415167 by 531blackbanshee
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you can wash the mig weld back in with tig torch,but if there was any impurities under the mig weld and you get hot enough to penetrate through the old weld the tig will cause those impurities to rise to the surface and create bugholes.
you would also need to make sure that there was no moisture trapped inside the already welded tubes and that the tubes were not rusted inside because that rust would be an impurity like i spoke of.
so try low heat and just make a small puddle and use it to just smooth out the surface.(without over penetrating).

so i am thinking
could it be done? yes
could you create more work for yourself?yes

that is my .02,maybe someone else has some better info.

leon

skiatook,oklahoma 1980 z1r,1978 kz 1000 z1r x 3,
1976 kz 900 x 3
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03 Dec 2010 23:19 #415242 by porchev914
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Thank you Leon for your input :) I SHOULD be working on my molds, but I had a small bit of time this evening, and I worked on a new welding cart for my Tig and plasma cutter. I got the bottom of the cart almost finished, I still want to add a couple of braces, otherwise I'm happy with it:

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03 Dec 2010 23:26 #415243 by porchev914
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Any spot you see a black scorch mark is a spot where I contaminated my tungsten. The little bastards have a way of getting crapped up waaaaaaay too often. Tig welding is cooooooool! It's not a walk in the park though. It takes a steady hand and perfect rhythm to get the desired stacked dimes beads in a straight line and a consitent width. But the aluminum cart is good practice before I touch my bike with a tig torch :unsure:
A diamond plate cart is gonna look cool....

FRANKEN Z!
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06 Dec 2010 07:29 #415624 by 531blackbanshee
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nothing like jumping in on the deep end adam :laugh: !
lookin good man,i have seen a few guys buy tig welders and then get frustrated and sell them because they couldn't get the hang of it.


leon

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1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!

billybiltit.blogspot.com/

www.kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/325862-triple-tree-custom-work

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06 Dec 2010 07:31 #415625 by kz1k
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what kinda gas are you using?

1978 KZ1000A2

"JUST IN! A MAN WHO HOLDS THE WORLD RECORD FOR USING THE MOST DRUGS DIES TODAY. HE WAS WAS ATTACKED BY A PACK OF WILD DOGS HE THOUGHT HE SAW"

WHY FART AND WASTE IT, WHEN YOU CAN BURP AND TASTE IT?

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06 Dec 2010 09:20 #415644 by porchev914
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531blackbanshee wrote:

nothing like jumping in on the deep end adam :laugh: !
lookin good man,i have seen a few guys buy tig welders and then get frustrated and sell them because they couldn't get the hang of it.


leon


Thanks for the compliment Leon. I'm not the type to give up, and I'm a fast learner :laugh: I must confess though, if it wasn't for learning gas welding in H.S. shop class, it would be alot harder to pick up tig welding. As far as jumping in the deep end, I had read an interesting artical by a welding teacher that theorized it was better to start new tig welders out on aluminum. Because they don't know that aluminim is supposed to be hard to weld, they just adapt to welding it, more precise heat control, faster filler rod feed rates, ect.... So, I figured I might as well start with aluminum and see how it goes. Not to bad so far, but I'm still learning.

Joe, I'm using straight Argon for tig.

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08 Dec 2010 18:37 #416017 by kz1k
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looking good. keep er going. i dont know how you do it with your shedule.

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"JUST IN! A MAN WHO HOLDS THE WORLD RECORD FOR USING THE MOST DRUGS DIES TODAY. HE WAS WAS ATTACKED BY A PACK OF WILD DOGS HE THOUGHT HE SAW"

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08 Dec 2010 22:49 #416051 by porchev914
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Thats the trick, isn't it? I haven't gotten crap done in the last 2 months, and in the last month, what time I did have, I've been screwing around with tig welding training. Now that this project is comming to a close this week, I'll have more time. I'm supposed to call irishwill tomorrow...my triples should be done :woohoo:

I ordered a front tire, and will pick it up tomorrow. I got a Bridgestone Battlax BT016. Decent price at $83...I think it's the cheapest street tire I have ever bought.

Now, when my triples show up (hopefully before Xmas) I'll be able to install the timkin bearings waiting on the bench and have myself a complete roller. Man, that will be an amazing milestone for me :cheer:

FRANKEN Z!
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09 Dec 2010 02:25 #416057 by camaroguy
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cant wait to see that bad boy out in the light.

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09 Dec 2010 14:00 #416124 by porchev914
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And now I present to you the first production set of irishwills offset triple clamps

To be shipped out tomorrow :woohoo: and if the post office is on my side, I'll have a roller by Xmas :cheer:

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09 Dec 2010 14:04 #416125 by T_Dub
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mmmmmm, you better be ready next summer!

1977 KZ650B1
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-Cavanaugh Racing Head
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