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Engine flooding
05 Aug 2025 03:31
Hi all,
new to this forum, so if I'm doing anything wrong feel free to correct me. I'm in the UK and have purchased a kz1000g Z1 classic.
The question i have is that I am having trouble getting it started. When I start it from cold it will fire up, but after about several seconds it stops and then it just cranks over with out starting. Checked plugs, good spark. Checked injectors, fuel coming out, however the plugs are black and wet, so this is telling me that it is flooding. What could be causing this.
I am considering doing a carb change, so what would be a good set of carbs, and what do I need to remove remove and play around with to do this conversion.
Any help would be greatfull, as I am pulling what hair I have left out.
new to this forum, so if I'm doing anything wrong feel free to correct me. I'm in the UK and have purchased a kz1000g Z1 classic.
The question i have is that I am having trouble getting it started. When I start it from cold it will fire up, but after about several seconds it stops and then it just cranks over with out starting. Checked plugs, good spark. Checked injectors, fuel coming out, however the plugs are black and wet, so this is telling me that it is flooding. What could be causing this.
I am considering doing a carb change, so what would be a good set of carbs, and what do I need to remove remove and play around with to do this conversion.
Any help would be greatfull, as I am pulling what hair I have left out.
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Re: Engine flooding
05 Aug 2025 06:15
Welcome from Leicestershire. The below link may help you
1980 z1 classic fouling plugs - KZRider Forum - KZRider, KZ, Z1 & Z Motorcycle Enthusiast's Forum
1980 z1 classic fouling plugs - KZRider Forum - KZRider, KZ, Z1 & Z Motorcycle Enthusiast's Forum
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Re: Engine flooding
05 Aug 2025 06:40
Welcome from Brands Hatch, Kent.
Don't know anything about the injected systems but presumably they have an enricher system of some kind? With carbed models full choke is only used on initial firing then the choke is feathered back to the lowest point to maintain running. Then decreased further as it warms.
Is that the principal for the injected models? or is it all done in an ecu?
Don't know anything about the injected systems but presumably they have an enricher system of some kind? With carbed models full choke is only used on initial firing then the choke is feathered back to the lowest point to maintain running. Then decreased further as it warms.
Is that the principal for the injected models? or is it all done in an ecu?
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Re: Engine flooding
05 Aug 2025 06:51
It's an ECU that determines injector duty cycle based on a signal from a temp sensor (the mod I detailed in the attached link simply provides a manual "cold start" setting") as a cost effective option to an expensive ECU repair

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www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/617631...-82-begins?start=192
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Re: Engine flooding
05 Aug 2025 07:04
Single clothes peg in summer and double clothes peg in winter was always foolproof on my 69 mini cooper. Some progress is a retrograde step 🤣
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Re: Engine flooding
05 Aug 2025 07:17That was great until the engine earth strap broke, then the choke cable would glow red during starting and set your pegs on fireSingle clothes peg in summer and double clothes peg in winter was always foolproof on my 69 mini cooper. Some progress is a retrograde step 🤣
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Re: Engine flooding
05 Aug 2025 07:36
Hadn't invented health n safety in the 70's Guy. Back when men where men and smelt of Brut, girls didn't have trout pouts and a bloke with a top bun would got a good kicking.
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Re: Engine flooding
06 Aug 2025 00:31
Hi there, there is a cold start on the throttle bodies, it's not controlled from the ecu.
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Re: Engine flooding
06 Aug 2025 00:54Correct, however the fuelling is still controlled by the ECU as far as I am aware determined by a temp sensor (hence the link I posted)Hi there, there is a cold start on the throttle bodies, it's not controlled from the ecu.
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Re: Engine flooding
06 Aug 2025 01:16
Wookie58,
That's right, the fueling is from what you said, but it does seem to be functioning but to much. I'm beginning to think that it may be the fuel pressure regulator, so a few tests need to be done on that, and if that is the case, trying to find one. This bike has done just under 5000miles, so its been sitting around for a long time, so the diaphram could be suspect.
That's right, the fueling is from what you said, but it does seem to be functioning but to much. I'm beginning to think that it may be the fuel pressure regulator, so a few tests need to be done on that, and if that is the case, trying to find one. This bike has done just under 5000miles, so its been sitting around for a long time, so the diaphram could be suspect.
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Re: Engine flooding
06 Aug 2025 01:26 - 06 Aug 2025 01:30I would suggest also checking the resistance of the temp sensor (if it thinks it's colder than it actually is it will over fuel) Don't forget these sensors are NTC (negative temperature coefficient) so the resistance "decreases" as they heat upWookie58,
That's right, the fueling is from what you said, but it does seem to be functioning but to much. I'm beginning to think that it may be the fuel pressure regulator, so a few tests need to be done on that, and if that is the case, trying to find one. This bike has done just under 5000miles, so its been sitting around for a long time, so the diaphram could be suspect.
1982 KZ1000 Ltd
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/617631...-82-begins?start=192
kzrider.com/filebase-alias?view=download...d-fault-diagnosis&ca
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/617631...-82-begins?start=192
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