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21 Mar 2024 21:26 #896729 by sf4t7
referman - I'm going to heli-coil some cam bearing cap holes on my Z1 and want to find the drill guide you showed in a post from May of 2022.  Tried to find www.eastcoastadditive.com but no luck.  Anybody know a way to find one?


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22 Mar 2024 01:28 #896732 by zed1015
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I know it's not answering you query but i've done hundreds of cam cap thread repairs and never needed a guide.
You just need a bench drill to ensure the holes are drilled square and then either use the chuck to start the tap straight or use a simple tapping block. 

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22 Mar 2024 05:45 #896743 by sf4t7
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Thanks Rob.  Not the first time overthinking a job starts to turn it into a project !  


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23 Mar 2024 09:34 #896781 by referman
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Hi sf4t7, it looks like they are out of business and the last post on facebook was in 2022. The tool did make it easier but I've fixed may with out it.

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23 Mar 2024 17:21 #896801 by daveo
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Just a thought...could the cam cap potentially serve as a guide, while held in place with the other three bolts?


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23 Mar 2024 17:26 #896803 by SWest
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I've fixed many without drilling and with a 1/4" open end wrench. 
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23 Mar 2024 18:01 #896804 by Wookie58
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Just a thought...could the cam cap potentially serve as a guide, while held in place with the other three bolts?

Theoretically yes but there is a significant risk of removing material from the cap with the side of the drill bit which would render it scrap (the caps are matched to the head when line bored ) and possibly the whole head as a result unless you could find another cap which would fit without "nipping" the cam bearings or being too loose 
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24 Mar 2024 04:29 - 24 Mar 2024 04:38 #896818 by daveo
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Could wrap something around the the drill bit to help center it and prevent that.
And blunt he cutting edge of the drill bit in that area if it helps.

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24 Mar 2024 09:55 #896839 by Mikaw
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Random orphan caps are sold on evilly. Don’t use your matching one. Also one could install steel sleeves into the bore of the cap making it a nice jigs. Just my $.02

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02 Apr 2024 09:02 #897163 by Injected
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Keep the dowels in while drilling/tapping, they help to keep it somewhat straight. I have done plenty with the engine in the frame by hand, never had one that did not assemble after.
 
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