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22 Dec 2013 17:37 #616182 by kaw-a-holic
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lets try this again......


Well not a lot to report, waiting on parts.
I would like to get some opinions on my custom integrated brake light blinker. I have found some that fill the whole okay but they don't quit it for me. Here is what I'm thinking




The RED KZR will be tail light/brake the arc on the outside will be split in half for blinkers. Ideally I would like to make it out of aluminum but I may have to fiberglass it instead.

Jon
1977 KZ1000a1
Mesa, AZ
Phoenix Fighter Project
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22 Dec 2013 17:45 #616183 by kaw-a-holic
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Question:
How important is it to get the rear wheel exactly center. If a 1/2" front sprocket is good without an assist bearing but a 5/8" isn't. Can I just offset the rear wheel an 1/8". Will it really matter? This isn't a track bike by any means but I don't want it to handle incorrectly either. If offset of the rear wheel is allowed how much is the max offset before it affects handling

Jon
1977 KZ1000a1
Mesa, AZ
Phoenix Fighter Project

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23 Dec 2013 00:04 #616191 by Haybus
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Mine is offset about 0.170" and I can't tell. Corners real well both directions, runs straight as an arrow with my hands off the bars.

Alan

1976 KZ900 LTD (sort of)
2005 FJR
2009 Hayabusa
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/557845...-streetfighter-build

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23 Dec 2013 08:30 #616213 by 531blackbanshee
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lots of factory bikes are offset from the get go.

mine is offset 3/8's of an inch and i can tell no difference just like alan said
:Corners real well both directions, runs straight as an arrow with my hands off the bars.

i think it is a bigger deal in peoples minds than in actual application.

hth,

leon

skiatook,oklahoma 1980 z1r,1978 kz 1000 z1r x 3,
1976 kz 900 x 3
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23 Dec 2013 08:42 - 23 Dec 2013 08:50 #616214 by StreetfighterKz
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My 1000 has a 5/8" offset front sprocket with no support and I've had no problems so far and the Gpz750 I'm building will be running 5/8" offset without a support too.. My 900 will have a 5/8" offset with a support but it's gonna have a nice built engine when I'm done.

EDIT: Kz1000 = 160mm tire (4.5" rim), Kz900 = 180-190mm extra sticky tire (6" rim) , Gpz750 = 170-180mm tire (5.5" rim).

Later, Doug

1978 z1000 Streetfighter
1976 z900 Stripfighter (work in progress)
1983 Gpz750 Resto-Mod
1989 Vmax
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23 Dec 2013 09:05 #616218 by baldy110
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Over the years I have swapped many different engines into frames they wern't made for. GPz1100 into a Gpz750 frame, GSXR 750 engine into KZ1000 frame, ect. When I get to the point of chain alignment I have always simply eye ball the chain from the rear wheel to the drive sprocket using a long straight wire for reference. I'm sure it's not perfect but it always works great. Bikes handle great and have no weird handling issues. I agree with 531blackbanshee, people tend to make a bigger deal out of it than it really is.

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23 Dec 2013 10:40 #616226 by kaw-a-holic
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Sweet! Thanks for allbthe feedback guys, its why I love this forrum so much.

Any opinions on the tail light mock up I posted a picture of earlier? I thought about getting rid of the duck tail but it is too much of the KZ style to delete it.

Jon
1977 KZ1000a1
Mesa, AZ
Phoenix Fighter Project

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23 Dec 2013 11:04 #616230 by Haybus
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I think the 03 ish CBR tail light might fit the bill. If I was doing my tail light over again that's what I would use. I saw a picture of one on a bike here on KZR and thought it looked real nice.

Alan

1976 KZ900 LTD (sort of)
2005 FJR
2009 Hayabusa
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/557845...-streetfighter-build

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23 Dec 2013 11:13 #616231 by Haybus

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23 Dec 2013 14:20 #616248 by kaw-a-holic
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Thanks for that Alan. I actually have an integrated '01 Ducati light that fits just as well. I was just trying to go more custom. a lot of guys are doing the same mods I am so I like to invent a few one off items to keep some degrees of separation.



Comparing the two the Honda one does look to fit/fill better

Jon
1977 KZ1000a1
Mesa, AZ
Phoenix Fighter Project
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25 Dec 2013 13:30 #616391 by kaw-a-holic
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Just a quick mock up.



Jon
1977 KZ1000a1
Mesa, AZ
Phoenix Fighter Project
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31 Jan 2014 10:25 #620728 by kaw-a-holic
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As soon as I can figure out how to get the pivot bearings out of the swing arm to replace them I will be able to get my sprocket alignment figured out.

I am also debating making a custom rear duck tail out of aluminum. There are some cool things u want to do but I still want it recognizable as a KZ. It's why I have decided to go back to the single head light but with a super bright LED bulb.

Jon
1977 KZ1000a1
Mesa, AZ
Phoenix Fighter Project

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