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13 Sep 2012 11:18 #548444 by NakedFun
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2008 Kawasaki Concours 14
1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100
1976 Kawasaki KZ900

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19 Sep 2012 17:59 #549701 by NakedFun
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All,

I need some people as sounding boards for work that I have already done. I bought the universal DCC upper shock mounts, milled them to fit a tight radius to the frame tube, prepped the tube and burned them in. I have a good weld, but I am starting to wonder if I should lop them off and weld them in another way? Weld a stud to the back of them, drill a hole through the frame, slide them through and reburn them in on the outside like before, but weld the end of the stud to the inside tube? I could rill through the tube, into the mount and drill & tap them, then use a bolt? Am I over thinking this? Leon? Les?

Cory

2008 Kawasaki Concours 14
1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100
1976 Kawasaki KZ900

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19 Sep 2012 18:05 - 19 Sep 2012 18:07 #549706 by 531blackbanshee
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yes you are over thinking this :pinch: ,

but,
isn't that what engineers do :P .

man i do not think that there is any way(short of a GOD FORBID crash)that you could ever bend or break them off.

quit back tracking,
sounds like to much desk time and not enough shop time :laugh: .

you were confident enough to weld the damn things on :whistle: ,now move on to the next step :silly: .

while looking at them originally i never once thought that you would have any kind of problem with your work.

that is my .02 fwiw sir.

leon

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1976 kz 900 x 3
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19 Sep 2012 18:29 - 19 Sep 2012 18:43 #549713 by NakedFun
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Well it is your fault Leon! :woohoo: I saw your posting about the top mounts from a post 6 months ago, and you showed the way the Sanctuary does it! You stated if a person mounted them the way I did, they would come off quickly without the through stud through the tube! :S

Cory

2008 Kawasaki Concours 14
1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100
1976 Kawasaki KZ900
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19 Sep 2012 21:19 - 19 Sep 2012 21:20 #549746 by 79MKII
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NakedFun wrote: What about either one of these:

www.powderbuythepound.com/BONDED_BLACK_CHROME/

or

www.powderbuythepound.com/BLACK_MOTHER_OF_PEARL/

Cory


I posted about these right after you...just noticed it never showed up. Anyway, those are awesome powdercoat colors....thanks for the links!

The Kaw List:
Current: 79 KZ1000 A3 MKII, 78 KZ1000 A2, 78 KZ1000 Z1-R, 78 KZ650 SR, 80 KE175
Former: 03 KLX400SR, 99 ZRX1000, 82 KZ750 LTD, 80 KZ1000 A4 MKII, 80 KZ1000 LTD, 78 KZ1000 A2, 74 H-2 750 Triple, 78 KL250
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20 Sep 2012 10:20 #549847 by 531blackbanshee
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NakedFun wrote: Well it is your fault Leon! :woohoo: I saw your posting about the top mounts from a post 6 months ago, and you showed the way the Sanctuary does it! You stated if a person mounted them the way I did, they would come off quickly without the through stud through the tube! :S

Cory


:blush: did i really state that :pinch: ?
i'm gonna have to look back and check on that :silly: .

you would have to rip the side outta the tube for it to fail the way you coped it,and welded it in.
being that close to the tube junction lends alot of support to that area also.

it'll be fine,

leon

skiatook,oklahoma 1980 z1r,1978 kz 1000 z1r x 3,
1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!

billybiltit.blogspot.com/

www.kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/325862-triple-tree-custom-work

kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/294594-frame-bracing?limitstart=0

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20 Sep 2012 10:43 #549853 by NakedFun
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Thanks for the input Leon!

Cory

2008 Kawasaki Concours 14
1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100
1976 Kawasaki KZ900

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20 Sep 2012 11:19 #549867 by Patton
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NakedFun wrote: All,

I need some people as sounding boards for work that I have already done. I bought the universal DCC upper shock mounts, milled them to fit a tight radius to the frame tube, prepped the tube and burned them in. I have a good weld, but I am starting to wonder if I should lop them off and weld them in another way? Weld a stud to the back of them, drill a hole through the frame, slide them through and reburn them in on the outside like before, but weld the end of the stud to the inside tube? I could rill through the tube, into the mount and drill & tap them, then use a bolt? Am I over thinking this? Leon? Les?

Cory


The following post may be helpful with regard to support for holes drilled through frame tubes.

steell wrote: The frame is just mild steel, and the only difficulty drilling is keeping the drill centered.

If I was going to drill the frame, I'd make a boss (a thick walled tube that extends through the frame) and braze it to both sides. That would provide strength and support to the frame and keep the hole from cracking. Like the right front engine mount plate bolt holes.

Brazing a mount to the frame would be better, if you can figure out how to move the crash bars mount a little.

Tig welding would probably be better than brazing, but the equipment is more expensive and it requires more skill.


Good Fortune! :)

1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD

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20 Sep 2012 16:53 #549921 by NakedFun
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Patton,

Thanks for the input. I am going forward with the way it is now, and will probable ad a small gusset that will tie it into the frame gusset I wleded in above it. It will be in direct line with the force vector that is be applied through the upper shock mount.

Cory

2008 Kawasaki Concours 14
1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100
1976 Kawasaki KZ900

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20 Sep 2012 22:45 #549981 by NakedFun
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Well an unfortunate set of circumstances has caused my wife and I to swap our camping weekend and my build weekend! Ole' "HOSS" our '95 F350 Dually has a radiator leak that will need to be repaired, so it'll have to be fixed next week before we can use the RV. So that means build weekend is this weekend.... Got everything lined up, except the new header I bought won't be here in time. I'll post up pics this Sunday.

Cory

2008 Kawasaki Concours 14
1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100
1976 Kawasaki KZ900

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24 Sep 2012 15:09 #550623 by NakedFun
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So the weekend was mostly productive. I couldn't move any further until my header gets here so I can fab the exhaust. Got the gauges mounted, clipons put on, license plate made and added to the undertail, and an additional gusset added to it as well. I'll let the pics do some talking. I love the look and riding position with the clip ons!

Just everything sitting in place....


I went to a local supplier for muscle car/ vintage car rubber products (Metro Molded Products) and they carry in their show room a bunch of misc bushings, etc.. I found some for my exhaust hanger and the gauges. Made some of these that will bolt through the stock handle bar riser holes in the triple, and hold my gauge bushings and guages in place. Works fantastic and I love the position they are in. Not nearly as high as stock.




I made tabs for the license plate and decided to add a gusset as well.



Here is how it sat the end of the day...



What do you think?

Cory

2008 Kawasaki Concours 14
1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100
1976 Kawasaki KZ900

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24 Sep 2012 16:00 #550628 by 531blackbanshee
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lookin good cory.

leon

skiatook,oklahoma 1980 z1r,1978 kz 1000 z1r x 3,
1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!

billybiltit.blogspot.com/

www.kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/325862-triple-tree-custom-work

kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/294594-frame-bracing?limitstart=0

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