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28 Oct 2007 19:15 #178574 by 79MKII
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Nice work! It really looks neat and clean. Will the oil temp sensor be hooked to a light or a temperature gauge?

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29 Oct 2007 10:45 #178671 by tuxedotito
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79MKII wrote:

Nice work! It really looks neat and clean. Will the oil temp sensor be hooked to a light or a temperature gauge?


Thanks 79MKII,
I have a VDO 0-300 degree electric gauge. I plan to make a new instrument housing to use some VDO gauges and I would love a big Autometer tach too.:woohoo:

1981 GPz1100, Wiseco 1170 Kit, BS34 carbs; #40 Pilot and #140 Main, UNI Filters, APE main and cylinder studs, DYNA S, DYNA Coils, and lots of hours. Working towards Megasquirt/Turbo one day!!!
Ft. Lauderdale, FL

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29 Oct 2007 17:41 #178716 by mark1122
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Thats a beautifull job you've done there Tux. It all looks very pro.
Can u tellme where i can find the vdo oil temp gauge ? also i realy like the k&n filters. where can i find those ?

76 KZ, frame gusset work,1200CC.Ported by Larry Cavanaugh, 1.5mm.over intakes, Carron Pipe, ZRX12 rear end, and seat,96zx9 front end.
01 CBR600F4i Track bike.
Cobourg, Ont. Can.

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30 Oct 2007 05:26 #178777 by tuxedotito
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mark1122 wrote:

Thats a beautifull job you've done there Tux. It all looks very pro.
Can u tellme where i can find the vdo oil temp gauge ? also i realy like the k&n filters. where can i find those ?

Thanks!B)
The sensor and gauge came from ebay; search for VW Bug/Beetle or Porsche oil temp sensor. I purchased both from the same vendor. I also picked up a VDO cylinder head temp gauge and a sensor wire that mounts under 14mm spark plugs; all VW parts.
Any place that sells VW/Porsche performance parts should have it I would think. I looked on ebay out of habit, not necessity.
The K&N filters came with the carbs, I can look for the model# this weekend. I have everything in my Uncle's garage.
K&N is easy to find with the right model# etc., or search for 86-92 GSXR 750-1100 Oval/Pod filters maybe?
Hope this helps.

1981 GPz1100, Wiseco 1170 Kit, BS34 carbs; #40 Pilot and #140 Main, UNI Filters, APE main and cylinder studs, DYNA S, DYNA Coils, and lots of hours. Working towards Megasquirt/Turbo one day!!!
Ft. Lauderdale, FL

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31 Oct 2007 05:43 #178916 by mark1122
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Tux.that is neet to know u can use vw stuff ,Thanks. i guess the head temp sensor must be like a washer with a wire ?i will chech K&N's site . i guess i just need carb spacing and opening size? i;ll see.Thanks again.
What did u do to the end of the cam holes on the head ?it looks like it has been welded?

76 KZ, frame gusset work,1200CC.Ported by Larry Cavanaugh, 1.5mm.over intakes, Carron Pipe, ZRX12 rear end, and seat,96zx9 front end.
01 CBR600F4i Track bike.
Cobourg, Ont. Can.

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31 Oct 2007 06:13 #178925 by galaxian
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Awesome job!!
Can you put together a list of all parts with part numbers and vendors? We will honor you by calling the the Tux-Oil-Kit...forever and ever!!!!!;)

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31 Oct 2007 06:57 #178933 by tuxedotito
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galaxian wrote:

Awesome job!!
Can you put together a list of all parts with part numbers and vendors? We will honor you by calling the the Tux-Oil-Kit...forever and ever!!!!!;)

Thanks...that is very kind. It has been both fun and sometimes a serious headache doing the project.
I'll see about getting a list together and maybe some photos. As far as vendors go, there are a zillion places that sell this stuff. I will happily list the sizes, configurations, and part#'s of the bits I used.

Each individual can decide on color combinations and hose choices; that being said, Summit and/or Jegs are probably the easiest chioces:cheer:.

For example, Jegs makes five or six different colors of push-on hose. Then there is regular "AN" hose in many colors and Braided Stainless. You can get solid red fittings, solid blue, red-blue, black, black-red, chrome, stainless, and probably others I don't know about.
I'll post up a complete list of parts when done. Maybe some more detailed assembly instructions also.

Best Regards and thanks once again for the encouragement.

1981 GPz1100, Wiseco 1170 Kit, BS34 carbs; #40 Pilot and #140 Main, UNI Filters, APE main and cylinder studs, DYNA S, DYNA Coils, and lots of hours. Working towards Megasquirt/Turbo one day!!!
Ft. Lauderdale, FL

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31 Oct 2007 08:57 #178954 by tuxedotito
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Below is a quick and dirty list of hardware for the top end oiler project. Paste the part# in the website(s) for pics.
Again, these are the parts that I have used or are on order or not yet installed. Personal choice for others is wide open.
I'll post up pics and parts for the oil-lines/oil cooler project when done.


Fitting, Coupler, 90 Degree, Female -4 AN to Male -4 AN, Part# EAR-921104ERL summitracing.com
(Qty. 2)

Fitting, Hose End, 90 Degree, -4 AN Hose Barb to Female -4 AN, Part# SUM-220710
summitracing.com
(Qty. 2)

Fitting, Adapter, AN Tee with Female Swivel On Side -4 AN, Part# EAR-925104ERL summitracing.com
(Qty. 3)

Fitting, Hose End, Straight, -4 AN Hose Barb to Female -4 AN, Part# SUM-220700 summitracing.com
(Qty. 6)

Fitting, 90 Degree, -4 AN Male to 1/8 in. NPT Male, Part# EAR-922104ERL summitracing.com
(Qty. 1)

Hose, Twist-Tite, Rubber, Blue, -4 AN, 10 ft. Part# SUM-220780 summitracing.com
(Qty. 1)

1/4" JIC x 1/4" JIC Bulkhead Union Part# 2700LN-04-04 discounthydraulichose.com
(Qty. 4)

Drill and Tap 7/16x20
Drill and Tap 1/8"NPT

I hope this helps!

1981 GPz1100, Wiseco 1170 Kit, BS34 carbs; #40 Pilot and #140 Main, UNI Filters, APE main and cylinder studs, DYNA S, DYNA Coils, and lots of hours. Working towards Megasquirt/Turbo one day!!!
Ft. Lauderdale, FL

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31 Oct 2007 09:16 #178959 by riverroad
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Looking good Tux. But at first glance I was a little worried about you your little straight runs. On aircraft, it's a general rule to always add a little slack in the lines because when pressure is added, the lines swell, consequently shortening the line a little.
But aircraft run hydraulic lines with working pressures of 3000 psi or more. I'm sure that won't be an issue with your motor. How much pressure does a KZ oil pump put out? About 8psi? Way less than 3000 to be sure.
How much psi is that blue stuff rated for anyway? Never seen it before.

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31 Oct 2007 09:31 #178962 by tuxedotito
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riverroad wrote:

Looking good Tux. But at first glance I was a little worried about you your little straight runs. On aircraft, it's a general rule to always add a little slack in the lines because when pressure is added, the lines swell, consequently shortening the line a little.
But aircraft run hydraulic lines with working pressures of 3000 psi or more. I'm sure that won't be an issue with your motor. How much pressure does a KZ oil pump put out? About 8psi? Way less than 3000 to be sure.
How much psi is that blue stuff rated for anyway? Never seen it before.

There is a small bit of flex/strain relief factored into the straights after messing one up on the first try. The run is appx. 80mm at maybe 3-4 PSI at best.
The hose and fitting connection is rated at 250 PSI max operating pressure, burst pressure is not specified, more than adequate for the application:lol: .

1981 GPz1100, Wiseco 1170 Kit, BS34 carbs; #40 Pilot and #140 Main, UNI Filters, APE main and cylinder studs, DYNA S, DYNA Coils, and lots of hours. Working towards Megasquirt/Turbo one day!!!
Ft. Lauderdale, FL

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03 Nov 2007 18:01 #179478 by tuxedotito
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The rest of the oil system parts came from Summit on Friday:woohoo:
I took a few phone-camera pics and will get some better one's tomorrow.
The -6AN to 1/4"NPT swivels, and 90 degree -6AN push on hose ends for the oil cooler.


1981 GPz1100, Wiseco 1170 Kit, BS34 carbs; #40 Pilot and #140 Main, UNI Filters, APE main and cylinder studs, DYNA S, DYNA Coils, and lots of hours. Working towards Megasquirt/Turbo one day!!!
Ft. Lauderdale, FL
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03 Nov 2007 18:05 #179479 by tuxedotito
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1981 GPz1100, Wiseco 1170 Kit, BS34 carbs; #40 Pilot and #140 Main, UNI Filters, APE main and cylinder studs, DYNA S, DYNA Coils, and lots of hours. Working towards Megasquirt/Turbo one day!!!
Ft. Lauderdale, FL

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