Ok .. Lets build the Ultimate KZ650

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13 Feb 2006 10:51 #23538 by nfswift
Replied by nfswift on topic Ok .. Lets build the Ultimate KZ650
From the ground up... it looks alot like most other concepts for built 650s.

Modern forks off a newer bike and an extended aluminum swingarm, bigger modern racing tires as well with disk/drum combo mounted on spoke tires for weight.

A few reinforcements to the frame as per my liking depending how it handles or flexes.

Superbike bars and a comfy seat.

Ported/polished 650 head with: 83-85 GPZ cams, performance valves/springs. 810cc equipped. A good 4-1 exhaust with no baffles. 29mm Mikuni Smoothbores. Pods for the carbs. Dyna 2000 ignition.

A built 650 with this setup should be good for well over 140mph shouldn't it? The testing on the Bonneville flats with the first kz650s with only pistons/cylinders swapped out, bigger carbs and a 4-1 exhaust hit the traps doing 143mph. The 810 kit with other goodies like cams, springs, electronic ignition and pods should deliver alot more?

Not to mention I think with the extended swingarm and that setup with the right gearing 10 second 1/4s should be quite achievable?

So much potential heh heh.

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13 Feb 2006 15:44 #23593 by RomSpaceKnight
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Baldy's bike with a GPZ750 engine, 29mm carbs and a Hindle pipe.

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13 Feb 2006 17:16 #23621 by baldy110
Replied by baldy110 on topic Ok .. Lets build the Ultimate KZ650
The seat was custom made for me by Corbin. The wheels are stock C model just powder coated white along with the frame.
I ride it Laguna Seca every year for World superbike and it gets more looks than the newer bikes. It handles and performs great, very fast and pulls hard. I only wish it had a 6th gear, I top out at 120 MPH. The GS swingarm was pretty easy. Here is the link to mine.
kzrider.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=11890

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14 Feb 2006 02:30 #23749 by Dave Sloan
Replied by Dave Sloan on topic Ok .. Lets build the Ultimate KZ650
Here is some info on my z650.
810 kit, Andrews Cams, Modified Head,Oversized Valves,Fuel Injected, Yoshi Headers with a Stainless steal can
GPZ 750 Electronic Ignition
GPZ 750 Sump for oil cooler take offs
17" Front wheel 3 spoke 120 tyre, floating disc, four piston calipers, fork brace
18" Rear wheel 3spoke 150 tyre, Suzuki GSX 1100 Alloy Swingarm, Lengthened Rear Shocks, Floating rear disc.
2:4 Saddle
Still want to do race tech emulators on front forks, and better rear shocks.
Getting bike tuned properly on new fuel injection system.
Few pics in this topic but you have to scroll down abit
www.kzrider.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=26097

Or z650 frame and bodywork, gsxr1100 motor, single sided swingarm, upside down front forks with underseat exhaust might also be good aswell.:P :lol:.. Maybe next time

Dave

Z650B2 - Injected

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14 Feb 2006 02:31 #23750 by Snakebyte
Replied by Snakebyte on topic Ok .. Lets build the Ultimate KZ650
Who am I kidding :)
My bike reinforced frame, zr7 or gpz 750, wichever engine with a 810 kit and all the light weight components for valve train. Pushing 115 hp, zx swingarm setup with mono shock(I have), I havent desided on front end? No rearfender, one seater, Cut the tail of the frame and bend it up to look like the newer bikes.

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15 Feb 2006 01:01 #24000 by sbjones
Replied by sbjones on topic Ok .. Lets build the Ultimate KZ650
my '78 kz650 project. ready?

'77 kz1000 engine bored to 1075-10.25 comp.
-900 crank.(welded of course)
-ape k435 cams.(ork410's not sure yet)
-ported head
-mik 34 carbs.
-custom stainless exhuast from engine back (maybe)
-2004 gsxr rear swing arm and tire (already done)
-2001 front end (in the works as we speak)
-engine and body painted all jet black.
-still having the 650 badges on the sides!!!!!!

i like the 650 size in height and length!!!!!

and all in a 650 frame!!!!!! :evil:
might take a while, but i will get it done!!!!!!

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23 Feb 2006 18:34 #25999 by DeviantSaint
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Heyas, Okay I'm new to this board, new to riding and just bougt a 78 kz as my beginner bike.

So, uh... how the hell did you manage to shoehorn a kz1000 engine into the frame of the 650?

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23 Feb 2006 18:36 #26001 by wireman
Replied by wireman on topic Ok .. Lets build the Ultimate KZ650
grease and a porta-power :whistle:

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23 Feb 2006 19:37 #26011 by steell
Replied by steell on topic Ok .. Lets build the Ultimate KZ650
There are (or was) at least two members with 1000 powered KZ650's, one had custom fabbed motor mounts that set the motor low enough that the tank did not hit the cam cover, I think the other one modified the tank for clearance. There is (or again was) a member with a GPz750 with a GPz1100 motor in it, and the GPz750 motor will bolt in the 650, so dream big :D

KD9JUR

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24 Feb 2006 03:26 #26068 by Snakebyte
Replied by Snakebyte on topic Ok .. Lets build the Ultimate KZ650
DeviantSaint wrote:

Heyas, Okay I'm new to this board, new to riding and just bougt a 78 kz as my beginner bike.

So, uh... how the hell did you manage to shoehorn a kz1000 engine into the frame of the 650?


kzrider.com/forum/viewthread.php?action=...1&pid=23356&aid=1317

There is a 1000 in a 650 frame. Basically you use the front engine mount for the 650 to the 1000 then weld in other mounts to match the 1000. Dont forget to gusset the frame.

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24 Feb 2006 11:48 #26125 by Lorcan
Replied by Lorcan on topic Ok .. Lets build the Ultimate KZ650
The ultimate 650 should be bored to 750, have a turbo, fuel injection, mild cams, Unitrak rear suspension, and a full fairing with a swoopy tank and seat unit in black and red. It should make 100hp at the wheel and make boost from 4500rpm.

You could call it....









....the Kawasaki 750 turbo B)

760cc - 8.69@162mph
810cc, 211mph www.750turbo.com
www.stormdragbike.com

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24 Feb 2006 19:33 #26236 by 77KZ650
Replied by 77KZ650 on topic Ok .. Lets build the Ultimate KZ650
Nice one LorcanB)
Any ideas on why they quit making factory turbo bikes? It doesn't make sense to me, its the ultimate power adder, just look at what a turbo kit does to a new sport bike (if anyone wants HP numbers, check out mrturbo.com). Somebody should "make" Kawasaki design a new line of ZX based turbo bikes. :woohoo: talk about blow away the competition!
Scott

07 MDP Rookie of the Year
01 ZX-12R street/drag bike. 8.97 @155.7 pump gas, dot tires, no bars, no power adders. top speed in the 1/4: 161MPH

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