Transmission output shaft question

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17 Nov 2021 21:08 #858020 by KZ1100fan
Transmission output shaft question was created by KZ1100fan
I recently got a kz1000p7 and I have a question about the neutral balls inside 1st gear. The dike would not go into any other gear but 1st and neutral. I took the bottom case off to inspect the output shaft and shifter drum. All were in really good shape. The only thing I found was that the neutral limit balls inside the 1st gear were not letting the gear move further than neutral. I removed the balls and it shifts perfectly without issue. I haven’t run the engine to try it out yet but my question is:
Will this cause anything adverse to happen? Can I just leave them out? I’m waiting for gaskets and seals so I have about a week. 
Also I noticed the balls were 0.187”.
Shouldn’t they be a metric size? 
Thanks in advance.

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18 Nov 2021 00:34 #858022 by Scirocco
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You have to turn the output shaft or rear wheel. The centrifugal force during the rotation push the balls into the unlock position and let you shift into the 2nd gear. 

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18 Nov 2021 01:06 - 18 Nov 2021 01:07 #858023 by zed1015
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Yes! you can leave them out.
Won't be a problem and i've found it no harder to locate neutral without them.

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18 Nov 2021 09:12 #858028 by KZ1100fan
Replied by KZ1100fan on topic Transmission output shaft question

Yes! you can leave them out.
Won't be a problem and i've found it no harder to locate neutral without them.

Thanks for your help guys. I appreciate the input, I didn't want to start it and have catastrophe. 
Any input on the size of the balls that are supposed to be in there?
 

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18 Nov 2021 10:26 #858029 by zed1015
Replied by zed1015 on topic Transmission output shaft question

Yes! you can leave them out.
Won't be a problem and i've found it no harder to locate neutral without them.

Thanks for your help guys. I appreciate the input, I didn't want to start it and have catastrophe. 
Any input on the size of the balls that are supposed to be in there?

 
I've never actually measured them but yours are most likely original.
There's a couple of items in these engines that are imperial.
The needle roller bearings in the earlier motors camchain idler sprockets are for one.

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