Kz440 Redemption

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09 Sep 2015 13:18 #689370 by Jbosh
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It's alive! Well, electrically speaking. What you see is just the halo! Not even the low or high beans yet! I couldn't be happier about the headlight. I'll post a how to for the sp7080 halo LED 7" headlight install at some point.

Question. Does the 440 have running lights? What I am referring to is the daylight running of the signals and brake lights on their low setting and then the high setting being contact mode. Or, are they just 100% on and then 100% off without the option? I recall the signals and taillight being on previously.

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How doth you set this up or is that circuit post ignition coil? Without turning the engine on, I'd think I'd have running lights...

Seriously pumped after getting that headlight in operation!

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11 Sep 2015 13:31 #689632 by Jbosh
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dom2570 wrote: All I know about the belt drive for the 440s is that the belts are almost impossible to find, unless you risk getting a used one.

It is a direct bolt on conversion to chain drive through. 15 and 45 sprockets and 104 530 chain.

I replaced mine with JT sprockets and an RK standard for $77. A used belt on ebay is like $200


Dom, thanks for sharing your insight earlier! What you see next is the state of my front pulley. The ring that goes on the outside of it is not supposed to come off... Take the bolt off instead as this part is very hard to find. Wish I knew that a year ago. I just might be doing a conversion shortly.

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If I can get that outer ring back on, I'm good. So far, no dice. Noob mistake.

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12 Sep 2015 22:52 #689825 by dom2570
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I don't know what shipping to Canada would be, but you can have my old pulley if you want it.

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13 Sep 2015 09:17 - 13 Sep 2015 09:24 #689867 by Jbosh
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Dom, I'll have to figure out how to get the pulley off first lol. Was just turning the tire yesterday! I am definitely interested in your front pulley though and can pay you shipping. Just sent you a PM about this further. I found another belt for my bike for $100! Feels like a goldmine. I'll hold off on swapping to chain just yet being that I have the parts to make her work presently.

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13 Sep 2015 09:20 - 13 Sep 2015 09:38 #689868 by Jbosh
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Work continues. So far, finding an all black shifting lever assembly has proven fruitless. Wiring tray is being organized but is functional. Engine is now properly attached after shifting and shuffling the engine and mounts around until they finally lined up. The rear end is properly assembled including brakes and connecting linkages. The brake lever spring decided my face was a better resting place than the bike. I had to brake the news to it haha. Idiot light cluster has turned out fantastically.

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This is the right exhaust port however. Heavy carbon and white powder... It's not metal so I'm breathing easier but I am very confused? I am curious if you can effectively do a seafoam treatment/ if that is advise able with these old bikes?

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I am waiting for my wiring friend to help with a few loose ends and use the old wiring to connect the new LED idiot lights to their mounted sockets that you can see. The old one works just fine. Now I have spare bulbs for the gauge backlighting :). There is a lot of wiring to hide behind the headlight now though. There was lots before. Now there is more. Plan is to loom as much as I can to tidy it up.

The beast is assembling...

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13 Sep 2015 19:13 - 13 Sep 2015 20:13 #689945 by dom2570
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I didn't have the belt on when I removed the pulley. I wrapped it in shop rags then used a C-clamp to keep it from spinning. One pull of the trigger on my impact driver got the nut right off.

With the belt on you could probably just put a pipe through the rear wheel to lock it up the hit the nut nut with the impact driver...I done that many times to get front sprockets off, but never tried it with a belt system.

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14 Sep 2015 18:17 #690105 by Jbosh
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First hiccup. Installed new pads on the stock front disc caliper. The only thing I did was push the piston in a bit to get the brake back on the disc. This is the new master cylinder. It's smaller than the stock. Think half the size. The stock master cylinder is badly road rashed.

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Suddenly I don't have brake pressure. I've flushed the line twice now using roughly 50mL of fluid. No air bubbles. Nothing. Still no brake pressure. Ideas? I understand that in order to reinstall your brakes, the lines go on dry hence why I flushed. The bleed valve on the caliper is closed. I'll admit I haven't had a chance to do much bike maintenance on this beast before it needed work so I apologize for my noobness on this one in advance.

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15 Sep 2015 15:05 #690219 by Shimmy
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Have you tried reverse bleeding (ie. injecting brake fluid at the caliper)? I had the same problem when I installed new brake lines. When I tried this technique, a lot of bubbles came out the top that wouldn't with traditional bleeding, I think after that I also had to tie the lever to the handlebar and leave it for a few days for the last bits of air to work their way up to the reservoir.

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16 Sep 2015 16:41 #690390 by dom2570
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I can't tell from the picture, I may have the same master cylinder on my 440. I had issues getting it to work. I ditched the bolt that came with it and used the original that seemed to get it to work.

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16 Sep 2015 16:44 #690391 by dom2570
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This is the one I have. New Front Brake Master Cylinder With 8mm Mirror Hole for 50cc 125cc 150cc 250cc Gy6 Scooter Moped Atv Dirt Pit Bike Right Side www.amazon.com/dp/B00AMAHJ6Q/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_Q5H-vbDRJZP30

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16 Sep 2015 19:17 #690408 by Jbosh
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Thanks for your input guys. I've switched to the original bolt as I'm reusing the original line. Good thinking Dom! This way I know things will line up. Secondly, I can't find the article now but it was mentioned here on KZR by a wise member that the angle of the master cylinder has to be just right so that the highest point is the MC instead of the slight line bend after the MC ;). At the moment, because the bike is on a mechanics hydraulic stand, the bike is level. Fluid has to be added to the brake lines when the bike is instead resting on it's kickstand :woohoo: . Bingo gringo. This way the MC is the highest point for air bubbles to be released. I betcha I have air in that slight bend right now. I'll let you know how this works out but I'm fairly confident this may bring some necessary results.

Life is crazy right now before my wedding. Serious struggle to get this done. I'm more stressed about it than she is though. Definitely marrying the right one!

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17 Sep 2015 19:19 #690610 by Jbosh
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Dom, thanks for sourcing it because I didn't know until now it's origin! That is exactly it!

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