Oh NO! What have I done! My new KZ1300

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09 Jul 2014 13:18 #639459 by 531blackbanshee
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some fcr's would help it to breath :evil: !



or perhaps injection would be nice,




leon

skiatook,oklahoma 1980 z1r,1978 kz 1000 z1r x 3,
1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!

billybiltit.blogspot.com/

www.kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/325862-triple-tree-custom-work

kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/294594-frame-bracing?limitstart=0
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10 Jul 2014 05:05 #639540 by fitscott
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Whatever you do--- DON"T let Leon rideit!! - He's hell on those 6's :laugh: :laugh:

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10 Jul 2014 07:13 #639552 by 531blackbanshee
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fitscott wrote: Whatever you do--- DON"T let Leon rideit!! - He's hell on those 6's :laugh: :laugh:




leon

skiatook,oklahoma 1980 z1r,1978 kz 1000 z1r x 3,
1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!

billybiltit.blogspot.com/

www.kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/325862-triple-tree-custom-work

kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/294594-frame-bracing?limitstart=0
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10 Jul 2014 07:22 #639554 by Tyler
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6 FCR33's and those custom intake manifolds would probably tap my entire engine budget....

Aren't those like $1000 for a set of four...used?

If I knew what I was doing all the time life wouldn't be any fun.

'80 KZ650 E 700cc, dyna ignition and coils, frame up restoration, daily driver
'81 KZ1300 A3 full restoration, custom big bore pistons, 1400cc 6 cylinder super bike
"77 KZ650 B1 - Barn Find, work in progeress
"74 Yamaha DT 400 Enduro

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12 Jul 2014 21:00 - 12 Jul 2014 21:02 #639881 by Tyler
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Larry suggested I get new valves. Intake are no problem, they can be found both OE and aftermarket. The exhaust valves are a different story. Other than having custom stainless valves made I searched for OE and aftermarket exhaust valves, and the search went global. A few places in Germany listed some but we're lot of stock. I got lucky, Z-power a UK distributor, still had some Vesrah exhaust valves on hand.

Piston options have been a global effort as well. There are some available from Germany. The cheap "big bore“ kits on e-bay are not an option in my book, though they have a following in the small Honda 4's. Noting is left in stock here in the us. MTC used to make pistons for the 1300's but they won't do them any more. JE will custom forge a set for me for about $1200. Wiseco will make a custom order with minimum of 12 for a little less per set. On whim I called Ross Racing and they actually have the tooling to make pistons of this size, and rings, and pins. They quoted $880 for one set and about 100 less for 3 sets. I will have to check over on the 1300 forums and see if anyone else is interested.

I still have to decide what size, I could go 62.5 to 64mm depending on the availability of rings. Probably stay at 63 or under to leave some meat left in the sleeves. Stock compression ratio is 9.9 to 1 and I could bump it some but I doubt its going to be worth much hp wise.

If I knew what I was doing all the time life wouldn't be any fun.

'80 KZ650 E 700cc, dyna ignition and coils, frame up restoration, daily driver
'81 KZ1300 A3 full restoration, custom big bore pistons, 1400cc 6 cylinder super bike
"77 KZ650 B1 - Barn Find, work in progeress
"74 Yamaha DT 400 Enduro
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22 Jul 2014 12:07 - 22 Jul 2014 12:12 #640956 by Tyler
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The 6 bank FCR33's are available from Japan.... for the low, low price of $2,100 and change.

japan.webike.net/products/9638344.html

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I also found out the Cosworth in the UK makes race pistons for the 1300's, 63mm bore with 11.5 to 1 compression, that ought to haul ass...

If I knew what I was doing all the time life wouldn't be any fun.

'80 KZ650 E 700cc, dyna ignition and coils, frame up restoration, daily driver
'81 KZ1300 A3 full restoration, custom big bore pistons, 1400cc 6 cylinder super bike
"77 KZ650 B1 - Barn Find, work in progeress
"74 Yamaha DT 400 Enduro
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22 Jul 2014 16:43 #640987 by LarryC
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Tyler wrote: The 6 bank FCR33's are available from Japan.... for the low, low price of $2,100 and change.

japan.webike.net/products/9638344.html

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I also found out the Cosworth in the UK makes race pistons for the 1300's, 63mm bore with 11.5 to 1 compression, that ought to haul ass...


:woohoo: Oh yea!

Larry C.

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22 Jul 2014 19:37 #641024 by kzz1king
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Those carbs would sound fantastic! :woohoo:

74 Z1 1075, 29 smoothbores, owned and ridden since 1976
Home built KZ1000 turbo setup

www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/532476...s-budget-turbo-build

www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/532489-74-z-makeover

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28 Aug 2014 21:21 #645545 by Tyler
Got my head back from Larry..... Damn... B)



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Exhaust Port

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Intake Valves are soooo far back

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Other Side, man these must have been hard to work in

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The head looks fantastic, with a well done mild port job and new valves should run better than new. Great Job Larry, well done man!

If I knew what I was doing all the time life wouldn't be any fun.

'80 KZ650 E 700cc, dyna ignition and coils, frame up restoration, daily driver
'81 KZ1300 A3 full restoration, custom big bore pistons, 1400cc 6 cylinder super bike
"77 KZ650 B1 - Barn Find, work in progeress
"74 Yamaha DT 400 Enduro
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14 Sep 2014 18:45 - 14 Sep 2014 18:48 #647548 by Tyler
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More progress, Pulled the oil pan and cleaned the oil pick-up and strainer. I should have taken a picture but the screen was full of silicone, not plugged, but there was a lot of it. Some one used a bunch of it to seal the right side engine cover and some of it made its way into the oil system. I finally finished cleaning up all the damn gasket surfaces too, I hate that job, most tedious thing world but it has to be done.

Didn't find any signs of problems in the oil pan, bottom of the engine and transmission looked fine. I cleaned up all the sludge in the oil pan and painted it.

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Spent a day scrubbing the engine cases with MEK, and hit them with some gloss black VHT.

Finally starting to put it back together. Oh and Ross Racing is starting on my pistons.... fun stuff!


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If I knew what I was doing all the time life wouldn't be any fun.

'80 KZ650 E 700cc, dyna ignition and coils, frame up restoration, daily driver
'81 KZ1300 A3 full restoration, custom big bore pistons, 1400cc 6 cylinder super bike
"77 KZ650 B1 - Barn Find, work in progeress
"74 Yamaha DT 400 Enduro
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15 Sep 2014 18:22 #647704 by HBKwaka
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Wat kinda paint you use on the engine? If its not baked on fuel ruins it. Epoxy? Enquiring minds wanna know.

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16 Sep 2014 07:01 - 16 Sep 2014 07:02 #647744 by Tyler
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I used VHT.

www.vhtpaint.com/products/engineenamel/

I may have to try a heat gun to cure it because the engine probably won't be running until next spring.

If I knew what I was doing all the time life wouldn't be any fun.

'80 KZ650 E 700cc, dyna ignition and coils, frame up restoration, daily driver
'81 KZ1300 A3 full restoration, custom big bore pistons, 1400cc 6 cylinder super bike
"77 KZ650 B1 - Barn Find, work in progeress
"74 Yamaha DT 400 Enduro
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