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Replied by Tyrell Corp on topic Swing Arm Bearing replacement question

06 Jul 2015 07:05
Tyrell Corp's Avatar Tyrell Corp
Is the bearing code different? are these NOS Kawasaki or just off the shelf new bearings?

Sorry not sure the answer, but good question as I have to do this myself soon. My concern is that the curved face might flatten down when the swing arm axle is torqued tight...

Driving them in is easy enough, the removal can be more difficult.

Swing Arm Bearing replacement question was created by JimB

05 Jul 2015 19:07
JimB's Avatar JimB
Hello KZ'ers
OK so I am in the process of changing out my swing arm bearings on my 1978 KZ1000 A2 and looking at the new bearings the one end of the bearing appears to be flatter than the other (see pic, the top one appears to be flat on the one side versus the other one). If so then ,...Does the rounded end go in first or not, Is there a difference in how they are inserted into the swing arm? I know two bearings go in each side. other than the fact that the lip where the first bearing would bottom out is very small,...are there any other tips to getting these in?

Any tricks to getting these in or help would be appreciated.

Jim

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Replied by Jbosh on topic Kz440 Redemption

04 Jul 2015 09:09 - 04 Jul 2015 09:11
Jbosh's Avatar Jbosh
I haven't figured out the rear shock bushing issue yet but the old motorcycle shop here in Calgary has been really good for advice and ideas as well. I'll be seeing what they have on hand this upcoming week for a few things.

Took some time this morning to do the second coat of gloss black on the rims. Fairly happy with them! I ran out of paint right at the very end so I have coverage but I am after the right finish. Might have to do a light wet sand and do a third coat. See we shall. As I took a step back, I suddenly thought of the white LED ring on my headlight and wondered what a fine gloss white line around the outside edge of the rims would do? Hmmm...

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A few asked about the seat. Here is after adding another full length layer of yoga mat on top of some contouring and raising on the back end, I am content with it though my thought after I sat on it as a test was, "shoot this is narrow!" Hahaha but it's exactly how I want it.

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The tank got some attention today. I haven't used proform spray primer before and I'll admit I am not cool with the chunkiness of its finish! However, quality wise, after a light wet sand, this will be what is needed to make the tank hopefully gleam. I think the knee wells have turned out alright! Might do one more skim coat of bondo.

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Tomorrow afternoon is when I'll setup for a second coat on the auxilary parts (engine mounts, speedo buckets, to rear swing arm). The frame may get its second and really good coat at the same time but this is all time dependant ;).

As much as I know this is riding weather, man do I love having a project to work on in the garage! With a coffee in hand this morning, it was just right.

Replied by scubaanders on topic 82 GPz750 keepin' it real,.. for now

04 Jul 2015 04:05
scubaanders's Avatar scubaanders
:woohoo: Sweet find! :woohoo:

I am all for the black looker!

All the classic twin shock Gpz has a very specific look about them, it doesn’t matter if it’s the 550, 750 or the 1100. It’s like Cycle magazine wrote after their test-drive back in 1982.
It the kind of bike that could give you a speeding ticket even if your parked curb side. I guess they share it with bikes like the Suzuki GS1000S and E’s.

Tyrell gave a couple of very poetic lines in my project tread
Tyrell Corp wrote: LOVE early GpZ's

Keep em' coming.


Origami paperfold swage line bodywork and loud graphiics over bright colours not to everyone's taste i know, but it works for me.

The King is dead, long live the King! * Nicked from Dave Mardsen, z power uk, great writer and kawasaki expert. ( referring to the English tradition of mourning the death of the deceased King, but celebrating his succesor, a metaphor for the kz to Gpz lineage )

That black rod keeps what’s so nice about the design chopping of the rear frame and replace the end with a 50/60’th Norton tail just doesn’t make sense.

Go for swing arm, rims and a 41 mm fork and I think you will become a completely new person, the one you always wanted to be.

I will keep you posted on my progress and my Zephyr 750 swing arm looks like the easiest fit, its 235 over the pivot just like the Gpz, it might take just a little machining to make room for dust caps for the swing bearings, it’s already twin shock and just a tiny bit longer.

Because bikes are meant to be ridden.

Replied by NobleHops on topic The Friendship Bike - NobleHops restores a 75 Z1

03 Jul 2015 16:46 - 03 Jul 2015 16:50
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OK, on to the swingarm.

Recall I had rebuilt it prior, but found it binding. More careful sleuthing uncovered a bent pivot bolt, but not before I trashed my new bronze bushings in a vain attempt to seat them a bit better in the swingarm. Faced with $60 for another set of bushings, or $100 for this tasty set of roller bearings plus a new pivot pin and trick radial end bearings, I went with door #2.

Z1 Enterprises sells these, a Japanese part, with German instructions. Go figure!

Short version: I will use this setup every time moving forward, if it is available. Suggest you do too.

Long version:

Kit (does NOT include the new swingarm pivot pictured, but that was cheap and readily available elsewhere):
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Linky: www.z1enterprises.com/ItemDetails.aspx?item=KL31-6924

Cool radial bearing/caps, used instead of the stock dust caps, fit a lot easier:

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Needle/roller bearings furnished, two per side.

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Took the stock bushing, cut two kerfs in it with a cutoff wheel and used is as a bearing driver. This worked perfectly and easily.

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These things are a skosh over 15mm wide, and the full diameter of the furnished collar is a tad inset when installed and centered in the swingarm, so I drove them in till there was ~17mm of space for the second one. You DON'T want to try to drive one with the other - they are only designed to be driven on one end, the end with the markings. Measure your driver, mark it, only drive it till you hit your mark, A bit of space between them is perfectly fine, they are snug in there, they aren't going anywhere.

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No getting around it, you're going to have to bonk on them to start them off, as straight as possible. Use a plastic or hard rubber hammer:

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Grease the daylights out of everything, with good waterproof grease, You cannot over-grease these bearings in this application.

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I could not resist cramming as much grease as I could force into the radial bearings, to lube and waterproof them

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Install the spacers:

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A little piece of plywood over the rear frame stays made the installation of this SOOO much less fumbly for me, and less prone to nicking things up.

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Likewise a bit of tape around the pivot bosses prevented me marking up the fresh powdercoat.

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5 swipes with a file on the bosses to remove powdercoat insured a snug fit with no binding. Torque it to 25 lb/ft, check for play and stiction, found absolutely none of either. Silky smooth, best one I've done so far. I'm converted.

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Replied by tk11b40 on topic 1975 KZ 900 , ZRX Swingarm, 89 GSXR front end

02 Jul 2015 21:28
tk11b40's Avatar tk11b40
We'll I have been trying to find the bike show that is normally held at the Santa Clara county fairgrounds. No luck.

Not sure when the next show is.
How many KZR folks live in the West of Yankee Murica?

If you do, do you know of any shows?

Replied by 531blackbanshee on topic Pre-Project Advice needed-

01 Jul 2015 07:27
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here is some front end swap info.
www.kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/325862-triple-tree-custom-work

for swingarms you are gonna want to stay with the 600cc and under stuff to keep the pivot narrow enough to be made to work in your bike.

lots of folks have used the zx6/636 stuff ,as well as 600/750 gsxr stuff.

17" wheels and tires lose you some overall ride height,but gain you some tires choices.

what header do you plan to run????

sportbike suspension conversions run out of ground clearance pretty quick.

leon

Replied by martin_csr on topic Pre-Project Advice needed-

30 Jun 2015 10:32 - 30 Jun 2015 10:44
martin_csr's Avatar martin_csr
There's probably a better answer. A ZX6/Kaw front end & GSXR/Suzuki swing arm seem pretty common.
The 80s GS1100 swing arms typically list in the $200-300 range on eebbaayy, but I don't know if they fit the 750.
SUZUKI 80 81 82 83 GS 1100 --- $197T ..... SUZUKI ALLOY SWINGARMS CALFAB USA KATANA GS1100 wow.

For a bunch of topics: KZRider search = Suzuki swingarm .... KZRider topic 1 ......... KZRider topic 2
I kinda wonder if a good fit size-wise for a KZ750 might be ZR750 swing arm. The ZR750 engine is based on the KZ650/750 & the frame is similar. The 2000 ZR-7 sleeve is 219.5mm. I don't know the sleeve length of the KZ. The 90s ZR750 Zephyr has dual shocks & a 237mm sleeve. The ZR750s have 17" wheels.

Pre-Project Advice needed- was created by vadersdad

30 Jun 2015 07:58
vadersdad's Avatar vadersdad
I am brand new here. I stumbled across this cool place while looking for.....Kawasaki a Motorcycle!


Any one done a inverted fork conversion(,Zx6 Gsxr6) on to Kz750 ?
Once I have selected a donor Front Suspension assembly, What will I need to modify , or replace to allow it to fit the Kz?
SWINGARM:
I want to use an existing Aluminum Swing arm from a modern Bike, It will be modified too retain its OEM dual shock suspension. Can some one recommend a suitable model to use?, suggested necessary parts/ machining needed?
looks like a set of (zx6) Forks are going for $450 or less, and I have seen many different Alum swing arms for $250 or less.It looks like a worthwhile modification. Better brakes are the icing on the 320mm cake!
Any thoughts on Running 17" wheels
Thanks for helping TFNG out !

Replied by tk11b40 on topic 1975 KZ 900 , ZRX Swingarm, 89 GSXR front end

29 Jun 2015 21:38
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Thank you!

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