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Re: z1r engine noise
08 Jul 2017 10:50 - 08 Jul 2017 10:51
Hi Mike,
Pics have to be added to posts as attachments, and file size is very limited. I've always used the right click on photo and "send to" ..."mail recipient"..."size"..."small" and e-mail the pics to myself then temporarily saved to the desktop to get the pics re-sized to be able to attach in this forum. Works on the computer at least - every time...a few steps, but 0 hassles.
80+ ft-lbs torque (thereabouts estimate) mid range on 1200 cc Z1R? How do you spell F-U-N?!!!!! :woohoo: Must be advertised "13.5:1" CR pistons... and some well done porting, cams, carbs, etc. Sounds like it would have more than the "street" 10.5:1, or bigger cc, otherwise would not be making torque like that...or geared extremely short. Stock, heavy Z's aren't eager to power wheelie, but the front end must be at least getting a little airborne when the tire hooks. Big Block monsters like the scary 1500 cc Suzuki GS1100ES I got to try out on a joy ride years ago, and my buddy's insane 1400cc 14:1 CR CB1100F are the only normally aspirated old bikes I've personally known that could spin the tire at low to medium speeds in the upper gears in a straight line just by twisting the throttle. I can't wait to see pics now!
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Pics have to be added to posts as attachments, and file size is very limited. I've always used the right click on photo and "send to" ..."mail recipient"..."size"..."small" and e-mail the pics to myself then temporarily saved to the desktop to get the pics re-sized to be able to attach in this forum. Works on the computer at least - every time...a few steps, but 0 hassles.
80+ ft-lbs torque (thereabouts estimate) mid range on 1200 cc Z1R? How do you spell F-U-N?!!!!! :woohoo: Must be advertised "13.5:1" CR pistons... and some well done porting, cams, carbs, etc. Sounds like it would have more than the "street" 10.5:1, or bigger cc, otherwise would not be making torque like that...or geared extremely short. Stock, heavy Z's aren't eager to power wheelie, but the front end must be at least getting a little airborne when the tire hooks. Big Block monsters like the scary 1500 cc Suzuki GS1100ES I got to try out on a joy ride years ago, and my buddy's insane 1400cc 14:1 CR CB1100F are the only normally aspirated old bikes I've personally known that could spin the tire at low to medium speeds in the upper gears in a straight line just by twisting the throttle. I can't wait to see pics now!
-Scott
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Quote "speed costs money...how fast do you want to go?" (Which Z movie?)
Universal formula for how many motorcycles one should own = n + 1, where n is how many motorcycles you own right now....
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Re: z1r engine noise
08 Jul 2017 11:20
Oh, forgot why you were here in the first place. If you can't tell exactly where the noise is coming from, don't start taking things apart until you get a skilled and knowledgeable ear to listen to it. Best bet is another KZ engine builder, if you can...
Your engine does not use a primary chain drive, so synchronizing carbs would not likely make it run much quieter, unlike one of the smaller fours like the 650 / 750. It still is a good idea, though. Your modified engine likely has a screw and locknut manual timing chain tensioner like those sold by APE. Be careful adjusting the timing chain tension with a manual adjuster. It is easy to over tension the chain and cause damage if you aren't familiar with one of the safe "rituals". I do mine with the engine cold, rotating the crankshaft with a wrench while using only light finger torque to seat the chain tensioner as much as possible while rotating the crank through at least two full revolutions, then I back it off 1/4 turn and hold while tightening the locknut. I often remove the valve cover while doing this so I can see and feel how tight the chain is. It should be barely taught on the rear (carb side), but w/o any noticeable slop over the idler or at the front.
Steve is absolutely correct - even with your hopped up bike, you still need to get a factory Kawasaki service manual (FSM) for your bike. Most of what is in there still applies...
-Scott
Your engine does not use a primary chain drive, so synchronizing carbs would not likely make it run much quieter, unlike one of the smaller fours like the 650 / 750. It still is a good idea, though. Your modified engine likely has a screw and locknut manual timing chain tensioner like those sold by APE. Be careful adjusting the timing chain tension with a manual adjuster. It is easy to over tension the chain and cause damage if you aren't familiar with one of the safe "rituals". I do mine with the engine cold, rotating the crankshaft with a wrench while using only light finger torque to seat the chain tensioner as much as possible while rotating the crank through at least two full revolutions, then I back it off 1/4 turn and hold while tightening the locknut. I often remove the valve cover while doing this so I can see and feel how tight the chain is. It should be barely taught on the rear (carb side), but w/o any noticeable slop over the idler or at the front.
Steve is absolutely correct - even with your hopped up bike, you still need to get a factory Kawasaki service manual (FSM) for your bike. Most of what is in there still applies...
-Scott
2-04 R1, 81 CSR1000, 81 LTD1000, 2-83 GPz1100, 3-79CBX, 81 CBX, 3-XS650, 84 Venture, +parts
Quote "speed costs money...how fast do you want to go?" (Which Z movie?)
Universal formula for how many motorcycles one should own = n + 1, where n is how many motorcycles you own right now....
Quote "speed costs money...how fast do you want to go?" (Which Z movie?)
Universal formula for how many motorcycles one should own = n + 1, where n is how many motorcycles you own right now....
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Re: z1r engine noise
09 Jul 2017 14:39
ok listen yes i have a manual,the carbs being out of sync can make all kinds of noise,and old oil makes shafts sticky the cam chain tenchioner has a shaft in a guide hole that can stick,even though it is spring loaded.
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Re: z1r engine noise
09 Jul 2017 22:20
I believe we're being trolled. Please do go on mike.
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Re: z1r engine noise
12 Jul 2017 06:15
Did you find the noise?
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