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19 Feb 2016 12:08 #711484
by Grumpy Ole Artist
1978 KZ650 B2
Former rides...1976 CB360T, 1985 Shadow 700, 1985 GPZ750Turbo
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I am sure that I posted this on here before, but it has been quite a while...Old signwriter's trick...to remove sign paint (or any other enamel) from a "factory" paint job...use "Easy-Off" oven cleaner! The lye in it softens enamel to the point that it can be basically wiped off, without harming the underlying factory finish...A little buffing to get rid of the "ghost" and voila! I can NOT attest to the OP's question....try a little bit on the underside of the tail first! Wear gloves, long sleeves, & eye protection!
1978 KZ650 B2
Former rides...1976 CB360T, 1985 Shadow 700, 1985 GPZ750Turbo
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19 Feb 2016 14:32 #711491
by Tyrell Corp
1980 Gpz550 D1, 1981 GPz550 D1. 1982 GPz750R1. 1983 z1000R R2. all four aces
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I'd use a DA with 100 grit, just watch the corners. I did just that on my 750 restore.
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100 grit DA !!!
Noooo plastics are specialist, cracks and deep scratches return. No less tthan 400 grtit, working upwards wet sanding. Blocks are good for cars..but for these pretty bikes you can't find a single flat surface anywhere on the bike.
A tip from my paint factor: plastics have a release agent to allow moulding, if you must go down to the base plastic let it air for several days.
Generally I will flat and go down to basecoat, no further. Whilst a risk of reaction, in my experience only quite rarely - as seen on my bubbling side panels 1 year later on my gpz550. that was ( badly) previously painted - I knew I was taking a risk on that.
Metals always down to the bone, plastics need a different approach imo. Also cracks with filler have a habit of returning...
I'd use a DA with 100 grit, just watch the corners. I did just that on my 750 restore.
As:laugh:[/quote]
100 grit DA !!!
Noooo plastics are specialist, cracks and deep scratches return. No less tthan 400 grtit, working upwards wet sanding. Blocks are good for cars..but for these pretty bikes you can't find a single flat surface anywhere on the bike.
A tip from my paint factor: plastics have a release agent to allow moulding, if you must go down to the base plastic let it air for several days.
Generally I will flat and go down to basecoat, no further. Whilst a risk of reaction, in my experience only quite rarely - as seen on my bubbling side panels 1 year later on my gpz550. that was ( badly) previously painted - I knew I was taking a risk on that.
Metals always down to the bone, plastics need a different approach imo. Also cracks with filler have a habit of returning...
1980 Gpz550 D1, 1981 GPz550 D1. 1982 GPz750R1. 1983 z1000R R2. all four aces
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19 Feb 2016 14:47 - 19 Feb 2016 14:49 #711493
by spdygon
Alright guys....thx for the replies. This is what I'm working with.....don't know much about paint but I do know that I can save a lot of money if I can prepare it .
1982 GS1000sz Katana ( #15...17K Miles)
1982 GS1000sz Katana ( # 297....7100k Miles)
1978 Kz1000 Z1R. 10K Miles1
1978 kz1000 z1r 27k miles
1977 KZ 1000 A ( Project ) 54K Miles
1976 Kz900A4 (Red)21K miles
1976 Kz900A4 ( Red)7500 miles
1974 Z1 900 project
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Alright guys....thx for the replies. This is what I'm working with.....don't know much about paint but I do know that I can save a lot of money if I can prepare it .
1982 GS1000sz Katana ( #15...17K Miles)
1982 GS1000sz Katana ( # 297....7100k Miles)
1978 Kz1000 Z1R. 10K Miles1
1978 kz1000 z1r 27k miles
1977 KZ 1000 A ( Project ) 54K Miles
1976 Kz900A4 (Red)21K miles
1976 Kz900A4 ( Red)7500 miles
1974 Z1 900 project
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19 Feb 2016 15:13 #711503
by Tyrell Corp
1980 Gpz550 D1, 1981 GPz550 D1. 1982 GPz750R1. 1983 z1000R R2. all four aces
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I needed to make a few mistakes before realising what is correct prep.
A good tip: when flatting, hold the wet panel up to the light for a few seconds whilst it is wet. That glassy wet look is what the 2k clear coat will be like, so if it is perfect smooth at wet sand stage that is a good indicator for a few seconds whilst wet. Any bumps or dimples need to be dealt with perfectly by the end of the primer stage.
A good tip: when flatting, hold the wet panel up to the light for a few seconds whilst it is wet. That glassy wet look is what the 2k clear coat will be like, so if it is perfect smooth at wet sand stage that is a good indicator for a few seconds whilst wet. Any bumps or dimples need to be dealt with perfectly by the end of the primer stage.
1980 Gpz550 D1, 1981 GPz550 D1. 1982 GPz750R1. 1983 z1000R R2. all four aces
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20 Feb 2016 04:37 #711582
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84 Gpz900 street
77 KZ 1325 Turbo Dragbike project
79 CBX Pro Stock projects (2)
78 Z1R-TC AMA & ECTA LSR record holder
68 750 Enfield Brat project
82 750 Nourish Triumph LSR
Lake Havasu City, AZ
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Spdygon,
First just try chipping it away with a utility knife blade to see if it chips away easily. It sure looks like it will pop right off since the super thick repaint looks like the primer is already separated from the factory paint in the photos.
First just try chipping it away with a utility knife blade to see if it chips away easily. It sure looks like it will pop right off since the super thick repaint looks like the primer is already separated from the factory paint in the photos.
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84 Gpz900 street
77 KZ 1325 Turbo Dragbike project
79 CBX Pro Stock projects (2)
78 Z1R-TC AMA & ECTA LSR record holder
68 750 Enfield Brat project
82 750 Nourish Triumph LSR
Lake Havasu City, AZ
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