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03 Dec 2005 11:45 #11589 by mykznme
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hey i got a couple of practice pieces here. tell me what y'all think.
the side cover is the original from my kz but ive since replaced it due to the fact it flew off at 95 mph so now its a practice piece.
the tank is off a 82 harley sportster (aftermarket i believe it has a falsie gas cap)

ive been painting with rattlecan since before i can remember but im now starting to do profesional body work
ive bought a few how to's and i think i have the hang of it
these pics are not complete itook them before i airbrushed the piecesi will try to get new pics soon


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03 Dec 2005 11:48 #11590 by mykznme
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btw these are done with rattle can for the simple fact that paint is too damn expensive to practice with.
if anyone knows how to post multiple pics in one post plz let me know


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03 Dec 2005 12:31 #11593 by Duck
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No! You need some cute little faeries and elves so as not to scare the old ladies. They may be fornicating with a few nymphs, if you must flaunt society a bit. Don't want to perpetuate the myth of the evil biker now, do we?

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03 Dec 2005 12:51 #11597 by Kawozaki
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Dig it! I'd like to get into that kinda stuff m'self! I like the first pic alot...my side covers and seat cowl have that 'aligator skin' effect.

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03 Dec 2005 13:07 #11599 by John68
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pretty neat effects.

Duck,
Did you see when Tom Green had a guy paint the lesbians on his parents car hood? ...very talented artist.



fun effects to play with it are tinted clears and base coat. also, in between layers of clear, put on a few highlights around panel edges with various types of pearls. something like the top picture, I would put a clear over it, then airbrush some bright yellow tinted clear into some of the red, to give an orange glow. it deffinitely would make it pop out. Subdued copper pearl into clear on some of the lack would also be fun.

have fun!

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03 Dec 2005 14:59 #11609 by Duck
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John-

No, I missed the Tom Green thing.

Tell me what you think I could do with the Hondazaki and ten or so spare bucks.

I need to sand the tank and beadblast the tight spots Monday.

I'm up for a few coats from rattlecan and maybe some masking with pinstripe tape.

John Deere Green and Yellow maybe?

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03 Dec 2005 15:04 #11611 by mykznme
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there will be no fairies on any of my projects unless
the price is right:P

the crinkle/alligator effect i actually came across by accident awhilkle back when i was resrpaying my lil brothers bicycle.
i couldnt figure out for the life of me how or why it was cracking so bad.
but its caused by drastic paint temp changes

with that tank i sprayed my base and let it cure fully then heated the tank with a heat gun and put my paint in the freezer for about 5 minutes.

spray and let it cure in about 55-60 degrees f

its neat because you can actually control how much it cracks by messing around with the temps


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03 Dec 2005 16:06 #11617 by Duck
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The crackle looks nice.
I like John's suggestions for layering and highlights.
Me, I'm too cheap and unskilled for fancy paint but maybe my daughter will do something if she ever comes back from Paris.

Contemplating the possibility, what's the trick for line drawing? Say I do a white basecoat, what could Ana use to draw in black on the white that I might layer some clear over?

Also, John, what do you think of the long polymer urethanes. How well do they hold up? A friend painted his boat with some using a brush and it laid out so well you'd think he'd sprayed and wet sanded it. Looked like a smooth plastic coat with zero brush marks. He bought it at the boat store and it was very expensive compared to my usual enamel purchases.

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03 Dec 2005 16:54 #11626 by mykznme
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Contemplating the possibility, what's the trick for line drawing? Say I do a white basecoat, what could Ana use to draw in black on the white that I might layer some clear over?


the way i do it is i draw the picture i want to use for referance then mask the piece with 3m mask film.
with the jester i started with the hat then the balls then the face remasking between each color with full cure.you have to be somewhat of an artist to do it this way because you basically have to freehandthe outlines on the masking or you can stencil.
the jester actually came off a stencil but i wasnt going to pay $19.00 for one stencil so i drew it while looking at the stencil.
after all color outlines are done i went back and with another masking i drew on the detail lines.
white masking film is a great medium because it shows most colors really well

its alot of masking, drawing and cutting but well worth it
i dont know though i might be doing this all wrong and their could be an easier way but for me it works and im pleased with the results

also after the detail is dry very lightly sand with 3000 grit sandpaper to remove tape lines before airbrushing.

if i am doing this wrong and someone knows easier ways im open for suggestions

and does anyone know where i can get kaw factory paint chips?


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03 Dec 2005 17:51 #11628 by sigep628
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awesome, tell me where to send my tank for side emblems!

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03 Dec 2005 18:04 #11629 by mykznme
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sigep628 wrote:

awesome, tell me where to send my tank for side emblems!


do you mean paint on the kawa logo?


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03 Dec 2005 18:12 #11633 by sigep628
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no, I meant your talents with paint. I just did my tank today. Flat black with a red stripe running down the middle and I was going to get some side tank emblems off of ebay to match because I am not as talented as you. I am going to post pics tomorrow when I can get the bike outside.

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