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Rear Area Frame Differences between KZ650, KZ900 and KZ1000 13 Jan 2019 06:57 #796673

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I think I found the solution. Poster RSTNICK posted back in 2010 his way of attaching the light (the same ZX6E I have) to his KZ650. Looks SUPER easy. just 2 "L" brackets!!

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Making Brackets for KZs... 13 Jan 2019 09:11 #796680

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You can also weld cast iron and steel, but without lots of forethought it will crack

You can also weld stainless steel to carbon steel, but it will rust at the seam

Aluminum and steel expand and contract different. Even if you got a good weld it would crack and fall apart in the short term.

Soldering the two together would probably be a better idea or riveting. A pop rivet gun is only like 20 dollars at harbor freight.

Why wouldn't you just keep what you've found about the fender eliminator in one thread?

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Something like this:

"Fender eliminator and zx6e tail light on KZ650" as the title then the post would be something like this

Then you probably would have started the thread with your initial plans of fabricating your mount.

Some talk about that from others....

Then you researched and decided it would have been easier to use the bracket that comes with the light

Others offer advice about how you could do that.

You then post about how you might be able to adapt the fender eliminator for the 900 and 1000 for your 650

After more research you find those pictures you put in the other thread and post them up here and decide to go for that.

Maybe a few comments about its a clever idea, etc. then the thread is mostly dead unless you think of something else or run into a problem with installing it.

I just don't understand why you make a new thread for every question.
You have 4 threads that could all be put under one.
kzrider.com/kunena/5-chassis/609890-rear...00-and-kz1000#796689
kzrider.com/kunena/4-electrical/609878-l...ht-conversion#796560
kzrider.com/kunena/5-chassis/609864-can-...-light-pics?start=20
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Rear Area Frame Differences between KZ650, KZ900 and KZ1000 13 Jan 2019 10:03 #796689

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Id still like to know if the license plate to frame bracket for a 900/1000 would fit a KZ650, and what the rear frame differences are

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Rear Area Frame Differences between KZ650, KZ900 and KZ1000 13 Jan 2019 14:35 #796710

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The fender eliminator kit from Z1E fits the 650. I fitted one years ago. I also painted it satin black. I didn't use the light mount plate as it was too big for the small LED cat's-eye tail light.
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Rear Area Frame Differences between KZ650, KZ900 and KZ1000 13 Jan 2019 14:42 #796711

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stone fruit wrote: The fender eliminator kit from Z1E fits the 650. I fitted one years ago. I also painted it satin black. I didn't use the light mount plate as it was too big for the small LED cat's-eye tail light.


Thank you so much for this! I really appreciate it. Im going to buy the Z1E kit tomorrow.
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Rear Area Frame Differences between KZ650, KZ900 and KZ1000 13 Jan 2019 15:13 #796714

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stone fruit wrote: The fender eliminator kit from Z1E fits the 650. I fitted one years ago. I also painted it satin black. I didn't use the light mount plate as it was too big for the small LED cat's-eye tail light.


Did you drill a hole through that crossbar to mount the tail light bracket? I mean right here:

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Rear Area Frame Differences between KZ650, KZ900 and KZ1000 13 Jan 2019 20:07 #796730

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stone fruit wrote: The fender eliminator kit from Z1E fits the 650. I fitted one years ago. I also painted it satin black. I didn't use the light mount plate as it was too big for the small LED cat's-eye tail light.


I just had a look at this again. Im not going to get the Z1E. You must have done some modifications. Theres a part that slopes down that is not present in your photo like it is here. Ive added a photo of someone else's DIY. You can see the part that bolt to the frame nearest to the light dips down at a slight angle. The Z1 kit wouldnt accommodate that angle. Yours is straight so you must have bent it. i dont want to alter anything on the frame at all. So no Z1E for me..

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Rear Area Frame Differences between KZ650, KZ900 and KZ1000 14 Jan 2019 15:02 #796767

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Yes mine has been modified to fit. The fender bracket was changed by a previous owner for a fender relocation, so it wasn't original and I just worked with it the way it is.

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Rear Area Frame Differences between KZ650, KZ900 and KZ1000 14 Jan 2019 15:36 #796770

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stone fruit wrote: Yes mine has been modified to fit. The fender bracket was changed by a previous owner for a fender relocation, so it wasn't original and I just worked with it the way it is.


yep. Z1E emailed today and told me it will not fit. So glad I didnt buy it! It will be easier to make my own at this point.
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Can anyone recommend an AFTERMARKET tail light? *PICS* 14 Jan 2019 17:31 #796779

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You have my pictures above for mounting the ZX6E tail light with brackets.
Second time around I did it like this, used a metal parking sign:





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Can anyone recommend an AFTERMARKET tail light? *PICS* 14 Jan 2019 17:34 #796780

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Used a second plastic inner fender, cut it short, and put it behind the stock front inner plastic fender.
Licence plate bracket attached:



Second set of holes in the bracket raises the tail an inch to close the gap between the tail and "that hump seat":

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Can anyone recommend an AFTERMARKET tail light? *PICS* 14 Jan 2019 17:41 #796781

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Previous mock up:



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