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Chain or slipping transmission
25 Aug 2017 17:58
Hey all-
So I took my 2001 KZP in today to have it given a once over and to take a look at the chain, which to me seemed lose.
So while riding I noticed i clicking sound, not rapid click, maybe 2 a second for about 3 seconds. I only happened when I stayed in 1st gear for a little too long. Did not happen in any other gears or when operating in 1st gear at normal speed, only when I stayed in 1st too long.
I mentioned it to the shop owner when I dropped it off, he hasn't looked at the bike yet but his 1st thought was maybe 1st gear was slipping.
I thought maybe it was due to the fact that the chain was a bit lose.
What do you guys think?
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So I took my 2001 KZP in today to have it given a once over and to take a look at the chain, which to me seemed lose.
So while riding I noticed i clicking sound, not rapid click, maybe 2 a second for about 3 seconds. I only happened when I stayed in 1st gear for a little too long. Did not happen in any other gears or when operating in 1st gear at normal speed, only when I stayed in 1st too long.
I mentioned it to the shop owner when I dropped it off, he hasn't looked at the bike yet but his 1st thought was maybe 1st gear was slipping.
I thought maybe it was due to the fact that the chain was a bit lose.
What do you guys think?
Thanks
2001 KZP
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Re: Chain or slipping transmission
25 Aug 2017 19:41
1st gear won't slip. Clutch maybe but in higher gears. Pic of the chain and sprockets?
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Re: Chain or slipping transmission
25 Aug 2017 23:02
Thanks Steve- Its at the shop right now, so no pictures. I am assuming it has the ones used by the police it is a retired one- if the shop calls saying they need replacing, I think I will go with the non police spec ones.
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Re: Chain or slipping transmission
26 Aug 2017 04:46
Non Police Spec? 1st gear slipping? Sounds fishy to me.
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Re: Chain or slipping transmission
26 Aug 2017 04:56WRJansen wrote: Hey all-
.....................I mentioned it to the shop owner when I dropped it off, he hasn't looked at the bike yet but his 1st thought was maybe 1st gear was slipping.
I think I would take it to a different shop or learn to do my own work. Gears don't "slip". Ed
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Re: Chain or slipping transmission
26 Aug 2017 05:06
Welcome to KZR
I highly recommend you read the factory service manual for your bike cover to cover.
Even if you dont want to , or cant do your own work it will give you a understanding of how the bike functions.
About 95 percent of the membership here does their own work . We would be happy to offer advise on anything from basic maintenance to a whole bike rebuild but only if you do some basic homework and learn about your bikes operation.
First off , It is impossible for the transmission to slip. Clutch can but not transmission.
Secondly . Chain adjustment can be done faster than you could drive the bike to this mechanic. Its real easy..
Once chain is adjusted it is possible to check the condition of the drive chain and would have possibly removed the clicking noise caused by a loose chain.
If chain is worn out replace front and rear sprockets at this time..
Some manuals are available here to be downloaded by our membership for free
I share concerns about this shop / mechanic . I wish you the best and stand ready to assist
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I highly recommend you read the factory service manual for your bike cover to cover.
Even if you dont want to , or cant do your own work it will give you a understanding of how the bike functions.
About 95 percent of the membership here does their own work . We would be happy to offer advise on anything from basic maintenance to a whole bike rebuild but only if you do some basic homework and learn about your bikes operation.
First off , It is impossible for the transmission to slip. Clutch can but not transmission.
Secondly . Chain adjustment can be done faster than you could drive the bike to this mechanic. Its real easy..
Once chain is adjusted it is possible to check the condition of the drive chain and would have possibly removed the clicking noise caused by a loose chain.
If chain is worn out replace front and rear sprockets at this time..
Some manuals are available here to be downloaded by our membership for free
I share concerns about this shop / mechanic . I wish you the best and stand ready to assist
Dave
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Re: Chain or slipping transmission
26 Aug 2017 07:42
Not them saying non police specs... From what I read on the police version they ran a different chain and sproket. From what I read it was for bettwr excelleration.
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Re: Chain or slipping transmission
26 Aug 2017 07:46 - 26 Aug 2017 07:47
Thanks for the info..... I normally do comb through shop manuals 1st..... Just bought the bike and the manuals in the mail..... Also read through the free one on here
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Re: Chain or slipping transmission
26 Aug 2017 07:57
I didn't want to say the shop was crooked but some are. Some won't even work on these bikes. I run a 16 T countershaft and a 35 T rear sprocket. I lose a little low end but at FWY speeds the engine is purring along not screaming like the crotch rockets do.
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Re: Chain or slipping transmission
26 Aug 2017 08:32 - 31 Aug 2017 06:23
There are 2 manuals here on KZR that are applicable to the 2001 KZ1000P, so you should be able to investigate the drive chain. Be sure to note the chain wear measurement which is for checking the amount of drive chain stretch. Also, before adjusting the chain, I would note the chain adjustment marks on both sides. take pics for reference just so you'll be aware of your starting point in figuring out the problem. in case the po or someone didn't adjust the chain right.
From the diagrams the 1000P does have a larger rear sprocket & longer chain than the Ltd & CSR model & probably the 1000J, so as you noted, it should have more acceleration. To improve the fuel economy you can probably go with a smaller rear sprocket.
From the diagrams the 1000P does have a larger rear sprocket & longer chain than the Ltd & CSR model & probably the 1000J, so as you noted, it should have more acceleration. To improve the fuel economy you can probably go with a smaller rear sprocket.
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Re: Chain or slipping transmission
26 Aug 2017 11:22
And it will buzz like a bee at 55.
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