Can I eliminate the splitter on dual disc caliper

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27 Jun 2017 06:53 #765486 by akolleth
I am replacing the brake lines on my 1982 KZ750H 4 cylinder- which has dual front calipers. The way its set up as per OM is one line feeds from the master into a splitter, which then feeds 2 separate lines to the calipers. I am replacing the factory rubber hoses with braided stainless steel ones.

My question is there a reason a splitter needs to be involved when I reassemble it?

I have plenty of room on the master cylinder where the banjo connects that I could just run 2 separate lines straight from it directly to the calipers. And I am replacing the lines with braided stainless anyways, so getting longer ones would be easy enough (and would save me some money to boot)

The current lengths pf the lines are roughly 20" to the splitter, and 24" from the splitter to the caliper. So spitballing here I would say the approximate length of a single line would be in the 44-48" range. Is that too long for a pressure line like that?

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27 Jun 2017 07:09 #765488 by Nessism
Yes, you can run two separate lines. The banjo bolt previously on the splitter is for two lines so you can move that up to the master.

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27 Jun 2017 07:16 #765490 by davido
I did away with the splitter on mine when I changed the front end. I had 2 seperate lines coming down from the master cylinder. I had to lengthen the forks eventually so I changed the brake lines to a direct line from the master cylinder to the r/h caliper then a shorter line from the r/h caliper over the back of the mudguard to the l/h caliper. Everything works hunky dory.

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27 Jun 2017 07:57 #765496 by SWest

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27 Jun 2017 09:04 #765504 by akolleth

SWest wrote: I'd keep the splitter.
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Any specifics why? Not doubting you, just want to make an informed decision either way

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27 Jun 2017 09:32 - 27 Jun 2017 13:31 #765507 by Nessism
I kept the splitter on my bike with teflon/stainless lines. There are 6 joints in those systems, vs 4 joints in a 2 line system. There is no right or wrong answer as to what is best, just preference.
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27 Jun 2017 13:15 - 27 Jun 2017 13:17 #765521 by loudhvx
I tried all three different routings:
1 Stock with splitter.
2 Dual lines, one to each caliper.
3 One line to one caliper, then another line from that caliper to the other.

I could not tell one bit of difference in operation or maintenance.
I think option 3 looks best since the secondary line moves with the suspension. Then only the single primary line flexes with suspension travel.
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28 Jun 2017 04:40 - 28 Jun 2017 05:13 #765558 by martin_csr
Replied by martin_csr on topic Can I eliminate the splitter on dual disc caliper
By akolleth: Any specifics why? Not doubting you, just want to make an informed decision either way.

Not sure if this would be an issue, but a long line may not be as firmly secured as the stock setup & if too long it might contact an exhaust pipe when the forks are fully compressed or get pushed around in the wind at high speed or something. maybe not. ???
Last edit: 28 Jun 2017 05:13 by martin_csr.

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