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Re: Re:530 Chain conversion
09 Sep 2016 10:44
I'll send you my front if you want. Only a year old. Won't be able to use it after I put in my 550 gears.
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Re: 530 Chain conversion
09 Sep 2016 10:59Nessism wrote:
A 530 chain is the same width as a 630 so no spacers needed.
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Exactly!
And thats why i didn't use a spacer when i did the 630 to 530 conversion last year
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Re: 530 Chain conversion
09 Sep 2016 11:15
Per Dave Marsden (Eminent Historian) History of Kawasaki Z1 and KZ
Section regarding 1975 Z1-B
(original in all caps)
REAR DRIVE CHAIN AND SPROCKETS:
DUE TO COMPLAINTS OF THE DIFFICULTIES IN USING THE AUTOMATIC CHAIN OILERS OF PREVIOUS MODELS, THE Z1-B WAS FITTED WITH AN O`RING CHAIN. ANOTHER FIRST FOR KAWASAKI. THE NON O`RING CHAIN WAS NOT REALLY UP THE JOB ANYWAY, SO THIS WAS A GOOD MOVE.
THE WHOLE OF THE CHAIN OILER SYSTEM WAS REMOVED.
THE CHAIN WAS ONCE AGAIN AN 'ENUMA' PRODUCT, AN EK630S-TO X 92 LINKS.
BECAUSE OF THE EXTRA THICKNESS OF THE CHAIN, CAUSED BY THE O`RINGS, MANY OTHER PARTS OF THE BIKE HAD TO BE MODIFIED. THE CHAIN WAS 0.11 OF AN INCH WIDER.
THE FRONT DRIVE SPROCKET HAD TO BE SPACED OUT FROM THE INNER TRANSMISSION COVER, SO A MODIFIED SPROCKET WITH A BOSS BUILT INTO THE BACK OF IT WAS PRODUCED. BECAUSE OF THIS, A THINNER LOCKING NUT WAS ALSO SUPPLIED.
THE REAR SPROCKET REMAINED THE SAME BUT A THIN SPACER WAS FITTED BETWEEN THE SPROCKET AND THE CARRIER TO SPACE IT OUT. BECAUSE OF THIS THE SIX SPROCKET RETAINING BOLTS NEEDED TO BE MADE LONGER.
THE PLASTIC CHAIN GUARD WAS ALSO MODIFIED TO A SLIGHTLY WIDER DESIGN AND THE CHAIN ADJUSTER PLATES WERE CHANGED ONCE AGAIN.
BOTH REAR ENGINE MOUNTING PLATES WERE MODIFIED, ALTHOUGH THEORETICALLY, ONLY THE LEFT HAND ONE NEEDED TO BE. ONE OF THE 8 X 40 MM BOLTS, HOLDING THE BRACKET TO THE FRAME, WAS SHORTENED TO 36MM.
ALSO SHORTENED WAS THE TWO EXHAUST MOUNTING BOLTS. THESE WERE NOW 104 MM LONG INSTEAD OF 108 MM. THE TWO 10MM LOCKING NUTS, AT THE REAR, WERE ALSO MADE THINNER. THIS ENSURED NOTHING TOUCHED THE DRIVE CHAIN.
KAWASAKI RECOMMENDED THAT THE NEW O`RING CHAIN SHOULD BE LUBRICATED EVERY 500 MILES.
NEW PART NUMBERS:
CHAIN 92057-096
FRONT SPROCKET 13144-062
REAR SPROCKET SPACER 92026-108
MOUNTING BOLTS 92003-087 (SPROCKET)
ENGINE PLATE 32030-046 LH
ENGINE PLATE 32030-047 RH
MOUNTING BOLT 110G0836 (ENGINE)
CHAIN GUARD 36014-061
CHAIN ADJUSTER 33040-066
ADJUSTER BOLT 92003-147
EXHAUST BOLTS 92003-180
LOCK NUTS 92019-021
Good Fortune!
Section regarding 1975 Z1-B
(original in all caps)
REAR DRIVE CHAIN AND SPROCKETS:
DUE TO COMPLAINTS OF THE DIFFICULTIES IN USING THE AUTOMATIC CHAIN OILERS OF PREVIOUS MODELS, THE Z1-B WAS FITTED WITH AN O`RING CHAIN. ANOTHER FIRST FOR KAWASAKI. THE NON O`RING CHAIN WAS NOT REALLY UP THE JOB ANYWAY, SO THIS WAS A GOOD MOVE.
THE WHOLE OF THE CHAIN OILER SYSTEM WAS REMOVED.
THE CHAIN WAS ONCE AGAIN AN 'ENUMA' PRODUCT, AN EK630S-TO X 92 LINKS.
BECAUSE OF THE EXTRA THICKNESS OF THE CHAIN, CAUSED BY THE O`RINGS, MANY OTHER PARTS OF THE BIKE HAD TO BE MODIFIED. THE CHAIN WAS 0.11 OF AN INCH WIDER.
THE FRONT DRIVE SPROCKET HAD TO BE SPACED OUT FROM THE INNER TRANSMISSION COVER, SO A MODIFIED SPROCKET WITH A BOSS BUILT INTO THE BACK OF IT WAS PRODUCED. BECAUSE OF THIS, A THINNER LOCKING NUT WAS ALSO SUPPLIED.
THE REAR SPROCKET REMAINED THE SAME BUT A THIN SPACER WAS FITTED BETWEEN THE SPROCKET AND THE CARRIER TO SPACE IT OUT. BECAUSE OF THIS THE SIX SPROCKET RETAINING BOLTS NEEDED TO BE MADE LONGER.
THE PLASTIC CHAIN GUARD WAS ALSO MODIFIED TO A SLIGHTLY WIDER DESIGN AND THE CHAIN ADJUSTER PLATES WERE CHANGED ONCE AGAIN.
BOTH REAR ENGINE MOUNTING PLATES WERE MODIFIED, ALTHOUGH THEORETICALLY, ONLY THE LEFT HAND ONE NEEDED TO BE. ONE OF THE 8 X 40 MM BOLTS, HOLDING THE BRACKET TO THE FRAME, WAS SHORTENED TO 36MM.
ALSO SHORTENED WAS THE TWO EXHAUST MOUNTING BOLTS. THESE WERE NOW 104 MM LONG INSTEAD OF 108 MM. THE TWO 10MM LOCKING NUTS, AT THE REAR, WERE ALSO MADE THINNER. THIS ENSURED NOTHING TOUCHED THE DRIVE CHAIN.
KAWASAKI RECOMMENDED THAT THE NEW O`RING CHAIN SHOULD BE LUBRICATED EVERY 500 MILES.
NEW PART NUMBERS:
CHAIN 92057-096
FRONT SPROCKET 13144-062
REAR SPROCKET SPACER 92026-108
MOUNTING BOLTS 92003-087 (SPROCKET)
ENGINE PLATE 32030-046 LH
ENGINE PLATE 32030-047 RH
MOUNTING BOLT 110G0836 (ENGINE)
CHAIN GUARD 36014-061
CHAIN ADJUSTER 33040-066
ADJUSTER BOLT 92003-147
EXHAUST BOLTS 92003-180
LOCK NUTS 92019-021
Good Fortune!
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Re: 530 Chain conversion
09 Sep 2016 16:49scubaanders wrote: By the way, when you fit a 520 sprocket to the original Gpz750R1 cush drive, make sure the nuts can bottom out before the threads run out. Otherwise the sprocket will not fit as tight as it should to the cush drive. (can cause some unexpected results :blink: )
In that case you might have to take the studs out and thread them a little further.
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Yep, will do, I'm not a newby at this, just unfamiliar with the Kawasaki set up....
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Re: 530 Chain conversion
09 Sep 2016 16:51 - 09 Sep 2016 17:12Nessism wrote: I used the following on my 750E. As far as I know the R1 uses the same gearing.
JTR488.40 Rear sprocket
JTF513.16 Front sprocket
These sprockets match the stock gear ratio.
530 chain with 102 links.
A 530 chain is the same width as a 630 so no spacers needed.
Stock gearing with the 630 setup is 33 rear and 13 front.
Thanks for the info Nessism, there's so much conflicting information on the net, the more you read, the more confusing it gets...!!!
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Re: Re:530 Chain conversion
09 Sep 2016 17:12GPzMOD750 wrote: I'm fortunate enough to have a good independent motorcycle shop in town. I just walked in and asked for the parts I needed to convert to 530, one tooth up equivalent.
Within 20 min I was walking out the door with everything including a loaner chain breaker/crimper.
My local shops should be charged for what they do to my wallet, rape is an offense everywhere else...!!, Luckily I found an online distributor who's based about 20 minutes from my house, I contacted him last night and he has, or can get everything I need, and at great prices...Thanks for all the help guys
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Re: 530 Chain conversion
09 Sep 2016 17:13
A little chain FYI
530: first number is the length between pins in x/8", so in this case 5/8" between pins. Second number is width in x/8", so 3/8" wide.
630 is 6/8" wide (or 3/4"), and the same 3/8" width.
530: first number is the length between pins in x/8", so in this case 5/8" between pins. Second number is width in x/8", so 3/8" wide.
630 is 6/8" wide (or 3/4"), and the same 3/8" width.
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Carb O-ring Kits : www.kzrider.com/forum/3-carburetor/61807...-o-ring-kits?start=0
www.kzrider.com/forum/faq-wiki/618026-new-owner-things-to-know
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www.kzrider.com/forum/faq-wiki/618026-new-owner-things-to-know
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Re: 530 Chain conversion
09 Sep 2016 17:17Nessism wrote: A little chain FYI
530: first number is the length between pins in x/8", so in this case 5/8" between pins. Second number is width in x/8", so 3/8" wide.
630 is 6/8" wide (or 3/4"), and the same 3/8" width.
Understood...
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Re: Re:530 Chain conversion
09 Sep 2016 17:54
This shop is more expensive than online but not extravagantly so. I buy from them when I can. If they go out of business they won't be there when I really need a part and don't have time to wait for an online order.
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Re: Re:530 Chain conversion
09 Sep 2016 18:20GPzMOD750 wrote: This shop is more expensive than online but not extravagantly so. I buy from them when I can. If they go out of business they won't be there when I really need a part and don't have time to wait for an online order.
I'm glad I found the local online guys, they are up too $60 dollars cheaper on the chain i picked than the local shops...!!!
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Re: Re:530 Chain conversion
09 Sep 2016 21:29 - 09 Sep 2016 21:29
At $60 cheaper just make sure its not made in China
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09 Sep 2016 21:51JR wrote: At $60 cheaper just make sure its not made in China
I should have added that because there's no shipping as well, I'm picking it up from the warehouse, Its an EK chain and its made in Japan...
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