Standard Vs LTD?

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19 Dec 2014 11:28 #656427 by ed spangler
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I may have asked this before...if so, my apologies! I guess its an old age thing. Anyway, is there a way to determine from engine or chassis number....If a bike ( 1975 Z 900 ) was originally an LTD or a Standard Z model?

Have 1975 Kawasaki Z1-B & 2003 Harley Davidson Heritage Softail Classic
Had Hondas, Harleys and many ,many Z Series Kaws both Std. & LTD's

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19 Dec 2014 11:58 #656430 by Kapahulu
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I think they started making LTD's in 1976.

Here's a page showing the '75 VIN range: www.zedder.com/Info/75%20Z1-B%20900.htm

1978 KZ1000, 1976 KZ900, 1975 H2, 1973 H1, 1973 H2, 1978 RD400, 1977 RD400, 1974 RD350
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19 Dec 2014 11:59 #656431 by bluezbike
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I'm pretty sure that the first time a LTD was introduced was in 76 so your 75 should be a standard model

79 KZ 1000 LTD
77 KZ 1000 B1 LTD (awaiting electrical resurrection)

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19 Dec 2014 13:15 #656444 by ed spangler
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Thanks Kapahulu and Bluezbike
My Chassis number is Z1F503xx Engine is Z1E0526X......hmmmmm..... Engine number seems much lower than chassis?!..Guess I am gonna have to look at bike and verify this, these numbers were from the Title
Does that help?

Have 1975 Kawasaki Z1-B & 2003 Harley Davidson Heritage Softail Classic
Had Hondas, Harleys and many ,many Z Series Kaws both Std. & LTD's

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19 Dec 2014 13:23 #656445 by Mcdroid
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Seasons Greetings ED...check your title against the actual VIN numbers...it might be a typo...but if the difference is real, then perhaps either motor cases or frame has been replaced (depends how Tennessee registers motorcycles).

Michael
Victoria, Texas

1982 GPz750
1977 KZ1000A
1978 KZ1000A
1982 GPz1100
1975 Z2A

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19 Dec 2014 14:04 #656449 by floivanus
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The 76-80 ltd frame vins start with kz900B for the 900 or kzT00B for the 1000's

They were actually a limited edition for 76, after that they seemingly sold better than the standards, yet they seem like a downgrade, smaller gas tank and all.

my bikes; 80kz1000(project), 77 gl1000, 74 h2 (project)
Past; 78 kz1000, 83 kz550
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19 Dec 2014 15:27 - 19 Dec 2014 15:27 #656454 by !Seymore
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ed spangler wrote: Thanks Kapahulu and Bluezbike
My Chassis number is Z1F503xx Engine is Z1E0526X......hmmmmm..... Engine number seems much lower than chassis?


I can tell you that none of the numbers, bike/engine, match on my bikes... and they all were stock orig parts. Maybe others can confirm, but it's quite rare to have EXACTLY matching numbers...

C.
79' KZ650-D2 [fsm] (Max)
83' KZ750-F1 LTD [clymers] (Kay)
82' KZ1100-D1 Specter (another project)
78' KZ650-B2a (J&H, A Project)
91' KZ1000-P (P = parts)
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19 Dec 2014 15:34 - 19 Dec 2014 15:44 #656456 by RonKZ650
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Numbers don't match normally, but are usually close. I'd consider variances of 100 the max to be the original engine/frame. Being off by thousands guarantees somethings been replaced. The 5 in the first vin indicates a USA built unit, the 0 in the second indicates a Japan built unit. I don't believe they ever matched a USA frame with a Japanese engine, but could be mistaken. I think 1976 began the USA builds, so without knowing anything for sure I would guess a 1976 KZ900A, with an earlier year engine installed.

321,000 miles on KZ's that I can remember. Not going to see any more.
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19 Dec 2014 17:29 #656466 by SWest
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The 75 was a Z1b model. The LTD didn't come out until 76 I believe.

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20 Dec 2014 07:02 #656502 by ed spangler
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Mcdroid wrote: Seasons Greetings ED...check your title against the actual VIN numbers...it might be a typo...but if the difference is real, then perhaps either motor cases or frame has been replaced (depends how Tennessee registers motorcycles).


Thanks Michael! ;)
Seasons greetings to you and the family as well!
Yes, I need to compare numbers on title with whats on bike.
Regards
Ed

Have 1975 Kawasaki Z1-B & 2003 Harley Davidson Heritage Softail Classic
Had Hondas, Harleys and many ,many Z Series Kaws both Std. & LTD's

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20 Dec 2014 10:55 - 20 Dec 2014 10:56 #656527 by bluezbike
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According to K Parts catalog I have 1975 Z1's were as follows:
Frames - Z1F - 047500 - 085700
Engines - Z1E - 046500 - 086000

So it looks like your motor is a 75 but the frame does not fit, I have heard that up to about 200 difference in numbers was OK as they produced both replacement frames and motors for those that needed them. I suspect as has been mentioned there is a typo of some sort.
Hth

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77 KZ 1000 B1 LTD (awaiting electrical resurrection)
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