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19 Jul 2012 12:36 - 19 Jul 2012 12:57 #537055 by hobodan
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Hello all!

Long time, no post. Hope all is well! It has been quite a while, but now I am in a place to get back to work on my bike.

So, it came time to replace the drum brakes. Fortunately, I remembered there was something wrong. I am 80% sure that the rear wheel came from kz440. It is the solid large spoke wheels, which i believe are not stock on the 77. See pics below.







My question is, am I safe running a wheel from a kz440? Should I seriously consider getting the correct rims? I enjoy the style of the wheel, but I am not opposed to the spoked wheels.

The donor bike from which I got the swing arm and rims was a 1979 kz650. Now, if I am reading correctly, the stock rims where 18", correct?

Thanks all!

-Dan

EDIT: Notice the rear sprocket is only four bolt, instead of 6...

1977 KZ650-B1 frame and engine. Random pile of parts for the rest.
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19 Jul 2012 23:49 #537187 by Nebr_Rex
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How does the chain line up?

2002 ZRX1200R
81 GPz1100
79 KZ1000st daily ride
79 KZ1000mk2 prodject
78 KZ650sr
78 KZ650b
81 KZ750e
80 KZ750ltd
77 KZ400/440 cafe project
76 KZ400/440 Fuel Injected

www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=39120.0


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20 Jul 2012 00:09 #537194 by Kawickrice
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I am running that same rim on a Yamaha RD350 two stroker. As long as the chain is centered and the brake components line up you should be alright. I know it bolted up flawlessly to the Yamaha with no mods which was surprising since it is a Kawi rim. I think you will be fine.

73 Kawasaki Z1
07 HD CVO Ultra Classic
82 Suzuki GS 1100
74 Yamaha RD 350 (My two stroke toy)
77 Kawasaki KZ 650B-1 (My putt around bike)
80 Indian Moped (My American Iron)
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74 GT 380
79 RD 400 Daytona Special
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20 Jul 2012 00:42 #537201 by hobodan
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Chain seems to line up just fine. Everything seems to fit just fine! Excuse the filthy chain, that is next on the long list of things to fix.



Do you think the brake might be undersized? What about the sprocket? Is 4 bolts enough?

Thanks for the help!

1977 KZ650-B1 frame and engine. Random pile of parts for the rest.

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20 Jul 2012 04:22 #537232 by faffi
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I see no cause for concern here, just ride and enjoy unless you enjoy frequent burnouts and/or brake at the latest moment riding two-up down the Rocky Mountains. In other words, with normal use the setup will serve plenty well.

1977 KZ650B1
1980 F1 engine
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20 Jul 2012 09:03 - 20 Jul 2012 09:04 #537243 by 650ed
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Here are the specs for the KZ440 (see link). Notice the difference in HP (27 vs 64) and weight (405 lb. vs 485 lb.). Adjust your riding style accordingly.

www.bikez.com/motorcycles/kawasaki_z_440_ltd_1982.php

1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)
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20 Jul 2012 10:28 #537248 by faffi
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The KZ440 had 40hp, the 27hp version was for Germany. GVWR isn't all that different.

1977 KZ650B1
1980 F1 engine
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20 Jul 2012 10:40 - 20 Jul 2012 10:41 #537250 by 650ed
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I wonder why the big difference in HP between German and other KZ440's? Seems like it would be a scary ride on the autobahn. :woohoo:

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20 Jul 2012 10:47 #537251 by faffi
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There were insurance groups way back; 10, 17, 27, 50 and 100+ hp.

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20 Jul 2012 11:28 #537262 by P21
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Attachment chain.jpg not found


not to be a nick picker but what is up with this bushing it looks crooked it has seal rub marks on it.do you have wheel apart on other side?

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20 Jul 2012 13:02 #537275 by Kawickrice
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Good eye catching that bushing................ Is the axle tightened down? The swing arm should squeeze it tight. If it is torqued and still has the gap it should be thoroughly checked


P21 wrote:

Attachment chain.jpg not found


not to be a nick picker but what is up with this bushing it looks crooked it has seal rub marks on it.do you have wheel apart on other side?


73 Kawasaki Z1
07 HD CVO Ultra Classic
82 Suzuki GS 1100
74 Yamaha RD 350 (My two stroke toy)
77 Kawasaki KZ 650B-1 (My putt around bike)
80 Indian Moped (My American Iron)
1
Long Gone
75 Suzuki GT550
74 GT 380
79 RD 400 Daytona Special
72 Honda CL 175
74 Honda QA 50
Tampa FL

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20 Jul 2012 13:23 - 20 Jul 2012 13:24 #537280 by hobodan
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Good catch! I welcome all criticism/nit pick/whatever. I am not an expert at this! B)

So it looks like it worked it's way out of is hole. Take a look at the photos below. Wheel is tight in there, maybe there is a missing spacer?




Seems like it should be the item in number 9 below:


1977 KZ650-B1 frame and engine. Random pile of parts for the rest.
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