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05 Aug 2010 10:37 #388372 by Kyle_w11
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I just want to be sure about this. It appears that the chain oil pump has been removed from previous years of the Z1 and that by not reinstalling a pump into the empty space there will be no problems. Assuming that I lube the chain regularily as I would for any other chain driven bike.

thanks for your input.

Kyle

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1976 KZ 900 A4 with 1974 Z1 Big Bore Engine - 10,000 mi.

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05 Aug 2010 11:12 #388378 by Jack
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One of the first things people took of the original Z1's, they really didn't work and just made a mess. Chain technology wasn't up to the Z1 horsepower and Kawasaki thought a well lubed chain might last longer.The first Z's came with a sticker under the seat that entitled you to a new Enuma chain at 3000 miles iirc.

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05 Aug 2010 12:20 #388397 by Patton
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For peace of mind, would fashion a cover to bolt over the chain pump drive hole, to keep any crud from getting inside.

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1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD

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05 Aug 2010 12:48 - 05 Aug 2010 13:03 #388402 by Kyle_w11
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Deal,

thanks guys. One more question though.. if this engine has the chain oil pump.. I was told that's for 74 or older bikes. This is supposed to be a '76 KZ900A4 to the best of my knowledge. Is there something i'm missing?

Kyle

1976 KZ 900 A4 with 1974 Z1 Big Bore Engine - 10,000 mi.
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05 Aug 2010 13:43 - 05 Aug 2010 13:44 #388407 by Patton
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Kyle_w11 wrote:

Deal,

thanks guys. One more question though.. if this engine has the chain oil pump.. I was told that's for 74 or older bikes. This is supposed to be a '76 KZ900A4 to the best of my knowledge. Is there something i'm missing?

Kyle


What's the engine i.d. number?

Thinking a 1974 Z1 engine (complete with its 1974 28mm Mikuni carbs) has been installed in the 1976 bike. For whatever reason.

Maybe its a hopped-up 1974 engine.

Likely not a 1973, because oem 1973 engine was painted black.

Likely not a 1975, because oem 1975 engine didn't have chain-oiler.

1974 Z1 had unpainted engine and chain-oiler.

Engine i.d. number should be helpful. The number is located on a flat surface near the oil filler cap.

If the engine i.d. number has been obliterated, well . . . [you know].

Good Fortune! :)

1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD
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05 Aug 2010 18:20 #388476 by Kyle_w11
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Engine Code: Z1E 18739
Frame Code: Z1F 089702

And yes it is a hopped up engine.. not sure what the bore is... i'm hoping to talk to the builder when I get a chance.

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05 Aug 2010 18:43 - 05 Aug 2010 18:44 #388485 by Patton
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Kyle_w11 wrote in an earlier thread:

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Kyle_w11 wrote:

Engine Code: Z1E 18739
Frame Code: Z1F 089702....


Engine Code: Z1E 18739


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05 Aug 2010 18:47 #388487 by Kyle_w11
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where did you find these vin details? So you're saying this is actually a '73.. why does the vin have six digits on the bike instead of the 5 shown.

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05 Aug 2010 18:51 #388488 by KZQ
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Kyle_w11 wrote:

Deal,

thanks guys. One more question though.. if this engine has the chain oil pump.. I was told that's for 74 or older bikes. This is supposed to be a '76 KZ900A4 to the best of my knowledge. Is there something i'm missing?

Kyle


My KZ900 never had the oiler. They'd been eliminated in 74 or 75.

Bill

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05 Aug 2010 19:07 #388493 by Patton
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Kyle_w11 wrote:

where did you find these vin details? So you're saying this is actually a '73.. why does the vin have six digits on the bike instead of the 5 shown.


Kyle_w11 wrote:

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Engine Code: Z1E 18739
Frame Code: Z1F 089702....


My supposition would be a 1973 Z1 engine including carbs (with black paint removed) in a 1976 KZ900 frame.

Good Fortune! :)

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05 Aug 2010 19:17 #388496 by Kyle_w11
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interesting.. I guess i'm just going to forget about the details for now a do what has to be done to get it running. i'm sure the guy who was doing the work 27 years ago will be able to answer my questions.. I hope

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05 Aug 2010 19:41 #388510 by Patton
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Kyle_w11 wrote:

interesting.. I guess i'm just going to forget about the details for now a do what has to be done to get it running. i'm sure the guy who was doing the work 27 years ago will be able to answer my questions.. I hope


May ignore year of engine as far as doing what has to be done to get it running.

Z1 and KZ900 engines were basically the same.

Ramifications of hop-up would be same regardless of whether 73, 74, 75 or 76 900 engine.

What are questions regarding the hop-up?

My swag would be 4>1 plus overbore and perhaps a cam, which were common popular hop-ups at time. Guessing not much more, in view of the 28mm Mikunis being retained. As typically the next step would have been addition of 29mm smoothbores.

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