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19 May 2010 17:59 #369110 by trianglelaguna
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hmmmmm...guess all those race wins were because the forks could deflect a little then...thanks...good tip...i'll kepp no brace so my forks can flex and add suspension....B)

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19 May 2010 17:59 #369111 by otakar
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Just email Tarozzi with the dimensions of your forks. I have a suspicion that it is the exact same on that I have. What is the diameter of your fork tube and the diameter of the dust boot section. What is the center to center spread of your forks.

74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000

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19 May 2010 18:08 #369114 by trianglelaguna
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they were widely available in this photo...yet in this photo the three top superbike teams are NOT running braces on the lower frok ...hrc...pops yoshimura...and kawasaki factory racing teams had learned in testing that fork braces..while cool looking...detracted from the bikes handling and feedback leading to among other thing ,speed wobbles being transfred down the frame to the rear and front end push......or maybe it is just they where dumb teams with no time to look into such things...maybe they did not have the extra 100 for up grades.....B)

once again...just cause it looks cool don't mean it is...

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19 May 2010 18:10 #369117 by otakar
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When I blew a fork seal in my right fork and the air leaked out, my front wheel actually deflected to one side. I had a 10mm larger gap between my wheel and right fork than between the rim and the left fork after about a month of riding it that way. I am quite sure that you know exactly what other suspension changes were done to the front forks on those race bikes. ;) I used to race a stock Z1R back in 1978 also with no fork brace and had no problems either. Now I wonder what a stock front suspension with 30 year old springs is going to act like?

74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000

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19 May 2010 18:12 - 19 May 2010 18:12 #369118 by trianglelaguna
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nope....wait...must've tried em though...rookie mistake?

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19 May 2010 18:16 #369120 by hocbj23
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Big hat-no cattle?lol.bj

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19 May 2010 18:23 - 19 May 2010 18:32 #369123 by otakar
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No eBay APP ID and/or Cert ID defined in Kunena configurationHere is one for the earlier bikes like the 650 and 900/1000. He has a good cross reference on what this one will fit. This is why I am almost sure that the one I have on my bike will fit the 1100 Spectre. If the spread on your forks is 190mm and the tubes are 38mm than it is the identical one as mine.

74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
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19 May 2010 18:59 - 19 May 2010 19:00 #369128 by trianglelaguna
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but it dont say no 900 a4 and a question to that seller returns a not sure

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19 May 2010 19:04 #369131 by porchev914
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trianglelaguna wrote:

they were widely available in this photo...yet in this photo the three top superbike teams are NOT running braces on the lower frok ...hrc...pops yoshimura...and kawasaki factory racing teams had learned in testing that fork braces..while cool looking...detracted from the bikes handling and feedback leading to among other thing ,speed wobbles being transfred down the frame to the rear and front end push......or maybe it is just they where dumb teams with no time to look into such things...maybe they did not have the extra 100 for up grades.....B)

once again...just cause it looks cool don't mean it is...


I'd bet my left testicle that there is absolutely nothing stock with these guys front forks. They may have a production line basis, but the factory race teams leave very little untouched.

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19 May 2010 19:05 - 19 May 2010 19:35 #369133 by otakar
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Right in the add it states 900-A4 For the KZ900 it is part #23-0033 i have one on my 76 KZ900. I also have the identical one on my 77 KZ1000.

74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
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19 May 2010 19:32 #369138 by otakar
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porchev914 wrote:

trianglelaguna wrote:

I'd bet my left testicle that there is absolutely nothing stock with these guys front forks. They may have a production line basis, but the factory race teams leave very little untouched.


You would bet just one? I would bet both. That is how sure I am of your statement. :S ;)


74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000

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19 May 2010 22:31 #369166 by trianglelaguna
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oh?...o.k...i thought we were talking about fork braces,not fork internals.....why? are we on that now...please stay on topic and quit playing with your nuts....please...

stock fork springs.....touch my nuts....boy...here we go again...the king has clothes...the king has clothes.....

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