Lacing to 17" rims, new tank, piggyback shocks!

Just sent in a quote request for rebuilding my wheels to Buchanans.

Here is what I asked for:

Front 2.50x17 Rim laced with 48 new spokes to my hub and a Dunlop GT501 Bias Ply Tire with a tube in 110/80B17 4.3” wide (4” stock 100/90 tire)

*And*

Rear 3.5x17 Rim laced with 48 new spokes to my hub and a Dunlop GT501 Bias Ply Tire with a tube in a 140/80B17 5.63” wide or a 150/70B17 5.94” wide (5.25” stock 130/90 and .5" clearance to swingarm each side. Will probably go 140)

Wonder what that will set me back.

Also bought a pair of ZRX1200 KYB clicker piggyback shocks for my cafe project. $240 on ebay. Can't touch that price on anything else with piggyback reservoirs.



And I found a cafe tank that fits and it's steel.

Not my bike, from the eBay ad, haven't got the tank yet.



Later all!

Post edited by: sheik*yerbouti, at: 2007/01/29 01:07

I did a similar thing with the wheels but chose 2.5 x 18 front and 3.5 x 17 rear Acront rims so as not to slow the stearing to much.
I tryed bias belted cross plys with v rated rubber and found the bike weaved badly at 180km +. So with some advice now I use dunlop sportsmax 205s radials, 110x80x18 and a 140x80x17 using quality tubes, now keeps dead straight at 218km top speed and has faster cornering speed
cheers

sheik*yerbouti wrote:

Just sent in a quote request for rebuilding my wheels to Buchanans.

Here is what I asked for:

Front 2.50x17 Rim laced with 48 new spokes to my hub and a Dunlop GT501 Bias Ply Tire with a tube in 110/80B17 4.3” wide (4” stock 100/90 tire)

*And*

Rear 3.5x17 Rim laced with 48 new spokes to my hub and a Dunlop GT501 Bias Ply Tire with a tube in a 140/80B17 5.63” wide or a 150/70B17 5.94” wide (5.25” stock 130/90 and .5" clearance to swingarm each side. Will probably go 140)

Wonder what that will set me back.

Also bought a pair of ZRX1200 KYB clicker piggyback shocks for my cafe project. $240 on ebay. Can't touch that price on anything else with piggyback reservoirs.

And I found a cafe tank that fits and it's steel.

Not my bike, from the eBay ad, haven't got the tank yet.

Later all!<br><br>Post edited by: sheik*yerbouti, at: 2007/01/29 01:07

How much will it set you back? Likely a bunch. Buchanan is expensive. My front and rear wheels alone would have been over $900.00 retail.

Check with East Coast Wheel. They sell everything Buchanan does, but for a lot less usually.

jimmybon wrote:

I did a similar thing with the wheels but chose 2.5 x 18 front and 3.5 x 17 rear Acront rims so as not to slow the stearing to much.
I tryed bias belted cross plys with v rated rubber and found the bike weaved badly at 180km +. So with some advice now I use dunlop sportsmax 205s radials, 110x80x18 and a 140x80x17 using quality tubes, now keeps dead straight at 218km top speed and has faster cornering speed
cheers

One question jimmybon, how would 18"F and 17"R not slow the steering as much as 17"F&R? I would think that dropping the front from 19 to 17 would reduce rake and trail more leading to quicker, not slower steering. If you believe otherwise explain I'm all ears, my goal is to make this pig handle...

I've already learned one thing from your post after scratching my head and doing more searching, I found out that you can use tubeless radials, with radial specific tubes (due to spoked rims)..!

I had no idea about that! Nice. That totally changes my search for rubber.

caffcruiser wrote:

sheik*yerbouti wrote:

Just sent in a quote request for rebuilding my wheels to Buchanans.

Here is what I asked for:

Front 2.50x17 Rim laced with 48 new spokes to my hub and a Dunlop GT501 Bias Ply Tire with a tube in 110/80B17 4.3” wide (4” stock 100/90 tire)

*And*

Rear 3.5x17 Rim laced with 48 new spokes to my hub and a Dunlop GT501 Bias Ply Tire with a tube in a 140/80B17 5.63” wide or a 150/70B17 5.94” wide (5.25” stock 130/90 and .5" clearance to swingarm each side. Will probably go 140)

Wonder what that will set me back.

Also bought a pair of ZRX1200 KYB clicker piggyback shocks for my cafe project. $240 on ebay. Can't touch that price on anything else with piggyback reservoirs.

And I found a cafe tank that fits and it's steel.

Not my bike, from the eBay ad, haven't got the tank yet.

Later all!<br><br>Post edited by: sheik*yerbouti, at: 2007/01/29 01:07

How much will it set you back? Likely a bunch. Buchanan is expensive. My front and rear wheels alone would have been over $900.00 retail.

Check with East Coast Wheel. They sell everything Buchanan does, but for a lot less usually.

i looked on there all i could find was car and truck wheels!:blink: help! thanks

caffcruiser wrote:
Check with East Coast Wheel. They sell everything Buchanan does, but for a lot less usually.

Yup $1016 with 2.75x17 Sun Black Aluminum Rim and 3.5x17 same rim out back and 48 spokes for each wheel.

Will send to East Coast as well.

However with what I'm wrapping into this damn bike, the 1016 isn't unthinkable (it should be though...) :sick:

didn't i allready see them shocks by a guy called fireman59 on here before?

Post edited by: kawsakiman, at: 2007/01/31 00:05

kawsakiman wrote:

didn't i allready see them shocks by a guy called fireman59 on here before?<br><br>Post edited by: kawsakiman, at: 2007/01/31 00:05

Hey Kawman, nope actually these shocks are take offs from a 2004 Kawasaki ZRX 1200.

However I did find the locked thread here with the guy selling the preload only piggyback shocks for $200 a pair. If you follow the now 24 page thread over at CB1100F.com forum that was linked on our site, you’ll see that he in fact did deliver his product and the folks are quite happy with them.

In fact he is tooling up right now an order for a couple flavors of KZ’s in silver and gold. They look nice and all, but they are just preload only, whereas these KYB’s from the ZRX are rebound, compression, and preload adjustable. Much better.

I agree though it did look like a scam in the making. I am not associated or endorsing at all just pointing out what I saw.

wireman wrote:i looked on there all i could find was car and truck wheels!:blink: help! thanks

store.eastcoastwheels.com/

Yeah I sent the same quote request to ECW as well, interested to see if they quote any lower than Buchanan's.

One question jimmybon, how would 18"F and 17"R not slow the steering as much as 17"F&R? I would think that dropping the front from 19 to 17 would reduce rake and trail more leading to quicker, not slower steering. If you believe otherwise explain I'm all ears, my goal is to make this pig handle...
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Just my 2 bobs worth but I changed the total geometry of my z650 though diferent forks and swing arm and i still wanted that bigger laced wheel look on the front.
also suits the front guard i wanted but in saying that in my humbled oppinion 17" tyres have more spot width which make the stearing heavier to use a better phrase. I think the z650 Std setup is vary quik stearing with 19" & 18" wheels so all your doing is dropping the bike evenly 1/2" front and back with 18" & 17" rims which will shortern the trail a little. The forks shocks i've used are longer so now have a cut out seat height of 820mm, thats tall and has excelent ground clearance
cheers
ps "cows may have guns but pigs can fly"

I really like the way my '73 Z1-900 handles with 17" radials front and rear. Steering is considerably quicker, the difference is apparent even now because I switch between this bike and my '78 KZ1000 which has wider-than-stock DID alloy rims (19" in the front and 18" in the rear) and bias ply tires.

The radials work much much better on the '73 Z1 at speed into and out of corners. But I modified my Z1's frame some time ago, so it's in a better position to handle the loads imposed by radial tires now. Don't know what 17" radial tires would do to a stock Z1/KZ frame at (high) speed - don't think I'd want to find out.

I had good luck with east coast wheels. They did my rear wheel and did an excellent job. I too got a quote from Buchanan's and they were about 200 more, and the shipping would have been more from where I live so I went east coast and was very happy. Except that I went with polished stainless spokes on a 17X5.5 rim and all that was great, but when I pulled the cover off the bike last weekend I noticed that spoke adjust (pieces that tighten the spokes with) thingies had surface rust on them and I was upset cause the wheel is new and my bike has never never seen rain. Maybe just the moister from inside the garage did it, but my factory wheel never looked like that. Oh and the spokes and stuff that east coast wheels gets are directly from Buchanan!