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1980 Kz440 ignition system 29 Aug 2022 07:25 #873058

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I have a 1980 Kz440A LTD that I am trying to get running. The engine cranks well, seems to have good compression and has been getting spark (though not super strong). What are some troubleshooting things I should try to get the bike running?  I realized the timing cam was off by 180 degrees so I reversed that so that the points open at TDC. Should I readjust the timing?

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1980 Kz440 ignition system 29 Aug 2022 09:18 #873061

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have you sprayed starting fluid into the carbs?
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1980 Kz440 ignition system 29 Aug 2022 09:21 #873062

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I sprayed starting fluid into the air box. I was going to take the air box out this afternoon to gain access to the carb intake. How sensitive is the ignition timing?  If it’s off by a few degrees is that enough t prevent it from starting?

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1980 Kz440 ignition system 29 Aug 2022 09:58 #873064

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Hello,
I have a 1980 Kz440A LTD that I am trying to get running. The engine cranks well, seems to have good compression and has been getting spark (though not super strong). What are some troubleshooting things I should try to get the bike running?  I realized the timing cam was off by 180 degrees so I reversed that so that the points open at TDC. Should I readjust the timing?

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What do you mean by "timing cam" if the camshaft timing was 180 degree's out you would not have good compression and there would likely be some "mechanical lovemaking"

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1980 Kz440 ignition system 29 Aug 2022 10:20 #873065

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I mean the cam on the timing advance, sorry. The timing advance I had was stamped KZ400 and I am able to remove the cam from the lever arms. I wasn’t sure if the 400 and 440 share a timing advance or if it was replaced. Now the points are opening around when the engine reaches the F mark
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1980 Kz440 ignition system 29 Aug 2022 12:27 #873066

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so your engine does not fire with starting fluid?
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1980 Kz440 ignition system 29 Aug 2022 20:16 #873080

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What color is the arc on the spark plug? Blueish white is what you want.
How many volts are getting to the coil?
Points or electronic?
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1980 Kz440 ignition system 31 Aug 2022 15:36 #873146

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Just installed new points and condenser and reset the timing and that seemed to do the trick. The spark seemed a brighter whitish blue, and the engine did start a bit on starting fluid. I don’t have gas rn to try for real, but I think I fixed the ignition issues. Any advice on remounting the boots of the air box onto the carbs?

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Just installed new points and condenser and reset the timing and that seemed to do the trick. The spark seemed a brighter whitish blue, and the engine did start a bit on starting fluid. I don’t have gas rn to try for real, but I think I fixed the ignition issues. Any advice on remounting the boots of the air box onto the carbs?
I always use a smear of washing up liquid on tight rubbers, the lube helps them slide on but it dries out so won't make them slide off again at. A later date like other lubes will

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1980 Kz440 ignition system 31 Aug 2022 17:35 #873153

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I always use a smear of washing up liquid on tight rubbers, the lube helps them slide on but it dries out so won't make them slide off again at. A later date like other lubes will

For the US-ians, washing up (WU) liquid is dish soap. :)

I used that technique in the 1980s to install new rubber handgrips - then I discovered the compressor method.
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1980 Kz440 ignition system 02 Sep 2022 04:18 #873209

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This doesn’t really have to do with electrical stuff, but I just realized I’m missing the top piece of my airbox which actually would house the filter. I believe it would cover the battery when it is installed?  I don’t have anything like that. How well does this engine respond to the individual pod style filters that clamp right onto the carbs?
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1980 Kz440 ignition system 02 Sep 2022 12:55 #873242

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CV carbs are more of a pain to jet correctly than slide carbs.
You will need to get a DynoJet kit for a KZ750h[LTD].
This is the best way because you need the jet needle that comes with the kit.
Just swapping jets will not get you there.


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