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Late model 650/750 starter motor on early model
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09 Mar 2020 14:06 #820620
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Late model 650/750 starter motor on early model was created by DoctoRot
After cross referencing parts I believe the late model starter motor will drop into the early cases. However the early model starter motor is rated at .5Kw and the late model is rated at .6Kw. I assume this means it will crank harder? any foreseeable problems?
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09 Mar 2020 15:01 - 09 Mar 2020 15:21 #820624
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Replied by calum on topic Late model 650/750 starter motor on early model
As long as the efficiency of the starter motor is the same (I have no reason to assume otherwise - it will definitely be pretty close), then yes, it will crank harder. The only real difference is a 20% increase in current on the starter circuit. As long as the starter circuit can handle 50A (600W/12V) you should be fine. I think that means 7 gauge in your units.
As far as mechanical problems go, I think you're a lot better qualified to figure that out but the only thing I can think of would be the starter gear or the starter clutch. I can't see a 20% increase in power shearing the teeth off though, but you may get some slippage on the clutch if it's not the same as the new models.
Edit: you may want to check the specs for the starter relay. I imagine the extra current wouldn't be a problem but that's just a guess.
As far as mechanical problems go, I think you're a lot better qualified to figure that out but the only thing I can think of would be the starter gear or the starter clutch. I can't see a 20% increase in power shearing the teeth off though, but you may get some slippage on the clutch if it's not the same as the new models.
Edit: you may want to check the specs for the starter relay. I imagine the extra current wouldn't be a problem but that's just a guess.
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1980 KZ750H ( kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/612054-kz750h-restoration )
2000 BMW F650GS
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10 Mar 2020 10:13 - 10 Mar 2020 10:13 #820678
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Replied by DoctoRot on topic Late model 650/750 starter motor on early model
The starter clutch and idler gear are the same between late and early models so imagine that will be fine.
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10 Mar 2020 12:51 #820690
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Current Project:
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1977 KZ1000 Restomod ( www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/614517-1977-kz1000-restomod )
1980 KZ750H ( kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/612054-kz750h-restoration )
2000 BMW F650GS
Replied by calum on topic Late model 650/750 starter motor on early model
OK. I just checked the relay from the 1980 750H (relay: 21164005, starter motor: 211631190) and it is used in the 76 750 twin (starter motor: 211631020).
Current Project:
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/616901...-spare-parts-project
1977 KZ1000 Restomod ( www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/614517-1977-kz1000-restomod )
1980 KZ750H ( kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/612054-kz750h-restoration )
2000 BMW F650GS
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