Coil/ spark plug wires question

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23 Jun 2017 14:58 #765175 by KZ750-four-lyf
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I'm going to replace my plug wires.

I've read not to use resistor plugs AND suppression wires.
I've also read not to use neither because it interferes with radios and televisions. My bike has neither a radio or a TV.


So what happens if I run copper core wires and B8ES plugs?

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23 Jun 2017 15:26 - 23 Jun 2017 15:30 #765177 by Scirocco
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A question, who cares?
answer, nobody!
We live in a digital (non analog) contaminated world,use your smart phone.
This is my opinion.
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23 Jun 2017 17:15 #765196 by KZ750-four-lyf
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I am using my smartphone to post this. However, what are you talking about?

Will it burn out the coils or make the plugs go bad? That is what I'm asking.

I did pull my wires and measure resistance. I get 4.8k on two of them, exactly 4k on one and 5k on another.

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23 Jun 2017 17:31 #765200 by SWest
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Nah, it will cause a little static as you pass by AM radios.
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23 Jun 2017 17:40 - 23 Jun 2017 17:45 #765204 by Scirocco
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Sorry, i misunderstood your question.
I was thinking about radio disorders by the ignition system.
Spark plug caps or spark plugs have a resistor to minimize analog radio disorders.
Smart phones will not harm by this.
What coils are you using?
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23 Jun 2017 18:27 #765212 by KZ750-four-lyf
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I guess they are stock coils. They do have the screw on posts though.

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23 Jun 2017 18:36 - 03 Jul 2017 08:52 #765217 by Patton
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Is perfectly okay to run B8ES with metal core plug wires and non-resistor caps (such as supplied on Dyna plug wires available from Z1 Enterprises). This means there's no resistance component in the secondary loop. The only downside is ignition noise interference which spoils attempted listening to a radio or cassette player. I haven't tried an ipod.

Z1 and KZ's came stock with metal core plug wires, B8ES plugs, and caps with built-in resistors.

Good Fortune! :)

EDIT -- See following post by loudhvx, which includes: . . . can also mess up digital voltmeters, sometimes permanently, if you use one to troubleshoot the bike while running. I have one Fluke that hasn't been the same since. Some aftermarket digital tachometers might get affected and I've seen some comments on wideband setups that recommend using some sort of resistance/suppression.

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03 Jul 2017 05:55 #765947 by KZ750-four-lyf
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I bought new wires from Z1. The kind you have to cut.
Is there a certain way wires should be routed so they don't interfere with each other?

Also, they came with crimp on terminals, but i assume i don't need those for my application.

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03 Jul 2017 08:21 - 03 Jul 2017 08:26 #765957 by loudhvx
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It can also mess up digital voltmeters, sometimes permanently, if you use one to troubleshoot the bike while running. I have one Fluke that hasn't been the same since. Some aftermarket digital tachometers might get affected and I've seen some comments on wideband setups that recommend using some sort of resistance/suppression.


One resistor item in the path is fine. Two or more will start to cut down spark intensity noticeably.
You can go with no resistors, and if you are worried about it later, you can always go to resistor plugs later, easily.

Oh, and no it won't have any effect on the coils (heat etc.). I have seen resistor plugs go bad, failing as an open circuit, but so far I haven't seen a non-resistor plug fail open on a Kz.
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03 Jul 2017 10:11 - 03 Jul 2017 10:12 #765962 by slmjim+Z1BEBE
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KZ750-four-lyf wrote: I bought new wires from Z1. The kind you have to cut.
Is there a certain way wires should be routed so they don't interfere with each other?

Also, they came with crimp on terminals, but i assume i don't need those for my application.


Best practice has always been not to run plug wired parallel in close proximity, as induction can cause enough potential to spark the un-energized wire/plug. Plug wires should cross a right angles to minimize induction. That being said, the concept dates to older V-8 motors, where an unwanted induction-induced spark could occur in a cylinder during the intake stroke. It's very unlikely to disturb our inline fours or vertical twins.

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