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05 Jun 2017 13:04 #763623 by 76KZ900
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I have looked through my service manual a dozen times and cannot find how to check timing with a light.. Am I looking for the "F" mark at idle ?
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05 Jun 2017 14:01 #763628 by 650ed
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There is nothing in the ignition to adjust on the 1983 KZ1100. Ed
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05 Jun 2017 14:06 #763629 by 76KZ900
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Uh yes there is... The timing can be adjusted.
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05 Jun 2017 14:24 - 05 Jun 2017 14:25 #763631 by 650ed
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76KZ900 wrote: Uh yes there is... The timing can be adjusted.


Really? You may want to contact Kawasaki and tell them that the Kawasaki Service Manual for the KZ1100 is wrong. ;) Ed

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05 Jun 2017 14:41 #763632 by 76KZ900
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So if I remove the three screws and turn the ignition plate it isn't going to change the timing at all ?
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05 Jun 2017 15:03 #763636 by SWest
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Yes it will. There has to be an initial timing procedure to set it up.
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05 Jun 2017 15:12 - 05 Jun 2017 15:16 #763639 by 650ed
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76KZ900 wrote: So if I remove the three screws and turn the ignition plate it isn't going to change the timing at all ?


How do you propose to fasten the plate to the engine if you remove the 3 screws and turn it? The holes in the ignition plate are round; they are not slots (see images below). Are we talking about the same bike in your signature line - a 1983 KZ1100 LTD? Ed



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05 Jun 2017 15:22 - 05 Jun 2017 15:24 #763641 by TexasKZ
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A little farther into the fsm, is the following. It can be checked, but not adjusted.
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05 Jun 2017 15:27 - 05 Jun 2017 15:29 #763646 by 76KZ900
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I got it. It was the "F" mark at idle. I removed the ignition housing to install new chrome one. So it had to be "set" Ed my timing plate is slotted and I didn't want to guess that middle of the adjustment slot was gong to be right. I understand that there is no reason to adjust it. But if you disassemble the whole thing, there has to be a check made
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05 Jun 2017 17:06 #763666 by 650ed
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76KZ900 wrote: ..................Ed my timing plate is slotted and I didn't want to guess that middle of the adjustment slot was going to be right.........


Ah, that explains it. I guess someone replaced the non-slotted one at some point. Ed
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05 Jun 2017 17:33 #763669 by SWest
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Then it should be possible to use a timing light to set it at idle.
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06 Jun 2017 06:16 #763710 by Tyrell Corp
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Three marks : one is TDC for 1 and 4 and two for idle and advanced.

Strip and Lube the ATU with copperslip first , set the rotor /pickup gap evenly for both pick ups. Run at idle and use a strobe to rotate and line up the F mark. You should get full advance to the next mark at about 4000 rpm. Check the ATU is advancing smoothly,
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