KZ 650-B2 Ignition Coil repeated failures.

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21 Mar 2016 16:52 #716618 by rsilva
I have recently burned through 3 ignition coils on the same side of the bike. it is equipped with a Dyma electronic ignition, and has correct wiring based on manufacturer instruction. The Coils are made by EMGO. I have tested the failed coils and have found them inoperative.
Battery voltage: 12.6,
voltage leading TO COILS: 10.4
#1/4 COIL WORKS, BUT #2/3 DIES.
I have checked the rest of the electrical system and have found that it is reading 12.6 volts, and no fuses are blowing.

Pleas if anyone could help I would greatly appreciate it :(

If you want photos, I can provide them, just let me know.

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21 Mar 2016 16:57 #716619 by car5car
Replied by car5car on topic KZ 650-B2 Ignition Coil repeated failures.
If spark plug wires are bad, spark can burn coil. Check resistance of wires with coil and separately.

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21 Mar 2016 17:04 #716622 by 650ed
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You may want to (at least temporarily) go back to using points and see if you experience the same problem. My 1977 KZ650 stock coils have lasted 39 years with no problems; I use stock points. Ed

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21 Mar 2016 17:14 - 21 Mar 2016 17:16 #716625 by car5car
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Did you forget to use RTV? :)
My coil works fine.
2/3 coils should always be covered by gray RTV.
Use copper RTV for 1/4 coil. :evil:

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21 Mar 2016 18:33 #716638 by RonKZ650
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Yea, I'm betting on Chinese coils. My 78 KZ650 with 168,000 miles still has original Kawasaki coils even using a Dyna system. I don't think the coils are generally a fragile item. If they were, I'm sure I would have burned mine out by now.

321,000 miles on KZ's that I can remember. Not going to see any more.

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21 Mar 2016 18:38 #716640 by SWest
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I have two sets of original coils and one set of Honda coils. They still work and none of them have RTV smeared all over them. nor would they ever be. B)
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21 Mar 2016 19:36 - 21 Mar 2016 19:39 #716649 by rsilva
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the wires are fused into the ignition coil. should I try new connectors, and grounding the coil?
Also the coils are made in Taiwan, and it voids the warranty if i put paste on the coil. The coils are not melting or getting hot, they just stop working :/
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21 Mar 2016 19:56 - 21 Mar 2016 20:00 #716653 by Patton
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rsilva wrote: the wires are fused into the ignition coil. should I try new connectors, and grounding the coil?
Also the coils are made in Taiwan, and it voids the warranty if i put paste on the coil. The coils are not melting or getting hot, they just stop working :/

How were the failed coils tested?

Many stock coils have integrated plug wires permanently built into them as part of the coil assembly.

Coil mounting does not involve a ground. If suspended in mid-air, a serviceable coil will work just fine.

Assure good contact between each plug wire and its cap.
Could consider trimming ΒΌ" off each plug wire to achieve better connections where the wire attaches to its cap.

Battery may be weak and still measure 12 volts.
Would have the battery load-tested after an overnight charge.
Load testing is usually a free service anywhere that sells batteries.

For testing purposes, it's okay to use jumper cables from an automobile battery so long as the automobile's engine isn't running.

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22 Mar 2016 07:07 - 22 Mar 2016 07:34 #716713 by car5car
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rsilva wrote: it voids the warranty if i put paste on the coil. :/

it was a joke.
RTV is used to prevent cracks growing on old coils.

There is a resistor in diagram, is it installed?

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22 Mar 2016 07:32 - 22 Mar 2016 07:32 #716721 by KZB2 650
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10.4 volts leading to the coil sounds too low doesn't it guys?? Mine is 12.17 and 12.19 the last time I checked and my first Dyna coils lasted over 20 years before I decided to replace em.

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22 Mar 2016 07:55 - 23 Mar 2016 06:13 #716730 by SWest
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